<HTML><HEAD> <STYLE>P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } </STYLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) } </STYLE> <style>P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt } </style>  </HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; DIRECTION: ltr" width="100%"> <DIV>Thanks Paul and David,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was assuming the importance of the concert, & studio instruments. That's a given! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I was getting at, is, if (and I know this might be a large if) but if we were to submit a plan for total "long term" replacement (with repair & rebuilding concert instruments)  How important is it to have "High quality" Classroom & Practice rooms pianos.</DIV> <DIV>To cut costs in a replacement program do you feel "middle priced" Grands or verticals would hold up? (Yamaha, Kawai, Pramberger, Knabe, etc.) How important is the price range of these pianos?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My experience is the more expensive the piano, the more delicate it is (more sensitive to humidity changes and less tuning stability. In a new piano, assuming the pinblock is tight, doesn't the board move more in a "high quality" piano with a thinner board designed for better tone? Is that necessary for the Practice room pianos? How frequently can you get to these pianos to tune them in a year? Doesn't the care & maintenance of the "Quality" Concert and Studio pianos constantly change you tuning plans and become priority?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Your thoughts please..........and anyone else!</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV id=INCREDISIGNATUREID> <DIV><IMG id=INCREDI_SIGIMG src="cid:42D161BB-B475-41AE-9DF8-E4EE465CE0E5"></DIV> <FONT size=6><STRONG> Tony Mastadonna</STRONG></FONT> <DIV><FONT size=5>Institutional Sales Consultant</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG style="WIDTH: 168px; HEIGHT: 192px" height=50 src="cid:3E64BD19-1A07-4148-ACAD-647827D7555F" width=42 border=0></DIV> <DIV>    Cell-330-603-8843</DIV> <DIV>    <IMG src="cid:4CB3E816-91DA-4A56-9BAE-F003C9507B41" border=0 name=INCREDIINSERTIMAGE INCREDIIMAGEEXTENSIONS="INCREDIANIMEXTENSIONS,100,SU1CTDEsNDYsgUmBScHFnZWNJMGBTZmZKMVNiTSFlYEwmZXFTTTFjSQ0KCzFkcGNxUmBSYFJgSxJTUJMMiwwLCxJTUJMMywwLCw=" Collection,tn_pianospin,TN_PIA~1.GIF,,4.0? Collection,tony?s s INCREDIIMAGEATTRIBS="INCREDIANIM,89735A80-66D9-4C130B639-C95ACDE92859,tn_pianospin.imi,Image,tony"></DIV></DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage dir=ltr><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:dporritt@mail.smu.edu">Porritt, David</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 7/1/2008 6:58:14 PM</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [CAUT] University piano replacement program</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868">Paul:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868">We all have to do whatever our leaders and our budget will allow but frankly I’d like it if we only bought new grand pianos if we needed additional instruments.  I’ve long been convinced that full remanufacturing will get you more instrument for less money than trading them.  We had one D redesigned 3 years ago and is in my view far better than the new ones.  We have another out right now that will be returned just before school starts that………..I’ll let you know how it does but my prediction is it will blow away any new ones.  AND we will have spent a small fraction of the cost of a new one.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868">Uprights on the other hand, I’m trying to get a plan in place that will replace 2 uprights a year in perpetuity.  Uprights are not as cost effective to remanufacture (at least in my experience) so replacement is the logical course of action.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868">dave<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">David M. Porritt, RPT<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"><A href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">dporritt@smu.edu</SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #215868"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul T Williams<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] University piano replacement program<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><O:P> </O:P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hi Tony,</SPAN> <BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Realistic plan replacement at UNL is a hard one to "sell".  We have many Steinway and Mason &  Hamilin grands in our practice rooms.  Most of them are 40-80 years old, but with new actions, key bushings, etc.  Replacing them vs. fixing them is the reality of the university setting. We have to actually see reality in that we can not just replace them with new pianos even though we would love to do so. Performance pianos, of course, get the most attention.  I am currently replacing an entire action on a 1956 Baldwin D which, still, will need a new soundboard, pinblock, and whole nine yards, but we have to spread out the budget the best we can and this piano is one of our 'concert' instruments.  We also have three Steinway D's much newer and in excellent condition.  Every school has it's own budget and by what Ive seen, we have a pretty good one, but still not what would be considered "great".  The really great schools like Oberlin, Julliard, etc probably have a great replacement program as they are recognized as world famous.  For the main-stream university programs, I would say that they only replace pianos when they just can't be worth the investment.  I  regularly tune repair etc these instruments as they are played 12-14 hours a day.  Now with summer here, I have a chance to get in an try to fix the ongoing problems with certain pianos, but still have no time to rebuild them.</SPAN> <BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Does this help??</SPAN> <BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Paul</SPAN> <BR><BR><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%" cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 40%; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top width="40%"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">"tony" <amastadonna@neo.rr.com></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent by: caut-bounces@ptg.org</SPAN> <O:P></O:P></P> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">07/01/2008 03:55 PM</SPAN> <O:P></O:P></P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable cellPadding=0 border=1> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; BACKGROUND: white; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Please respond to<BR>College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org></SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; WIDTH: 59%; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top width="59%"> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%" cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><caut@ptg.org></SPAN> <O:P></O:P></P></TD></TR> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">cc</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top></TD></TR> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></TD> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">[CAUT] University piano replacement program</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <P class=MsoNormal><O:P> </O:P></P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; 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