<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Karen and also Kendall,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'd like to welcome both of you and thank you for your contributions. As has been pointed out, each list has it's own purpose and character. Our lists are not moderated and (with the exception of ptg-l which is for members to discuss organizational issues) are open to all. As with any other self policing, non moderated lists I have been on sometimes listees (if that's even a word) get a little prickly about what's appropriate to post. I hope you will consider staying on list and enjoy a wonderful group. I'd also like to thank you for referring folks to the PTG website and being a part of the piano community.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Best regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>DP</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoAutoSig align=left>Dale Probst, RPT</P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="mailto:pres@ptg.org">pres@ptg.org</A></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=859131618-12072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Karen E. Lile<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Requirements for contributing - Time to chill?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial>David and others,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial>I am not sure what the technology of the listserve that you use is.  But, on another listserve I belong to for sailing, people list their email addresses with their signatures.  That way, if there are specific issues that are personal that members of the listserve want to discuss off the list, they can write to someone specifically, and it doesn't go to the entire list</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial>Perhaps an approach like that might reduce the amount of discussion for the group on personal issues specific to a few members.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=652583316-12072008><FONT face=Arial>You stated the option of </FONT><PRE><FONT face=Arial><else we should recognize the potential of Kendall's contribution (to the general discussion) and allow him the 'guest' status he requested. ></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial>That would be most gracious of you all if you were to welcome Kendall's contributions on his own merit, and not require him to wear "New Jersey"<BR>license plates just yet</FONT><FONT face=Arial>. And I am sure that if you don't want Kendall's contributions, he will gracefully leave and not bother you all. </FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial>You also said:</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial><that this discussion is more appropriately had on ptg-l, with which I agree...except for a few things. First, in theory, Kendall can't participate, as a non-ex-member, though Karen, I believe could. Perhaps a waiver could be granted.></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial>Perhaps if the PTG is interested in reconnecting with former RPTs (including but not limited to Kendall), they can begin by granting <BR>them participation on the PTG listserve. If those who "are on the outside" have an opportunity to get to know all the wonderful<BR>folks in the PTG, then wouldn't they be more likely to become members again? If, however, on a former member's first attempt to reconnect with <BR>other PTG members after many years of being absent, they are immediately told that they must rejoin and their professional competency <BR>is questioned in a public forum because they don't happen to be a member, I don't think that is a very inspiring invitation to rejoin. In Kendall's case,<BR>he just "got here" less than a week ago. As for me, I am a PTG member, but not a technician or aspiring technician. Other than organizational suggestions,<BR>I would have far less to contribute than Kendall does.</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial>I think, as you said, the issue is complex and that these issues have been with the PTG for a long time. Perhaps<BR>the pertinent things have already been said by all, to outline the issues. If enough people feel that policy<BR>changes are worth discussing in the PTG, I am willing to contribute, if asked, with suggestions and my experiences of how<BR>things are done in other organizations. But, I am not motivated to press people to do things they don't want<BR>to do. And I don't want to lobby for changes in the PTG that the membership doesn't want. I would rather be earning income, <BR>sailing or dancing.</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=Arial>Karen Lile<BR></FONT><A href="mailto:kl@pianofinders.com"><FONT face=Arial>kl@pianofinders.com</FONT></A> </PRE></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>