<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16681" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would suggest, if anyone is motivated, to undertake a small demonstration project, for example, to take the 1998 archives of CAUT and show how it would be organized into a reference format. I suggest this because I believe there are a number of difficult value decisions that must be made in such a project, and that we won't know if it will be worthwhile and workable until we try to do it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The CAUT and Pianotech lists are basically discussions of opinions. They work because we know the persons and their contexts, and the flow of the discussions. It will be no small project to try to convert this flow of opinions into settled and organized objective information. In fact, I suspect that when we remove the persons and opinions, there might not be a lot left.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Doctors, for instance, have very good reference materials, but they still get together to discuss difficult cases. In many instances the best threads on the lists are "live diagnosis" conversations. I don't know how this could be converted to a reference format. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, I think it would be very interesting to have a person or committee take a small section of the archive and show how it can be converted to reference material.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fssturm@unm.edu href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">Fred Sturm</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:08 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Forum format (was Re: Requirementsforcontributing/posting; RPT status</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Dale, <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>Thanks for publicly committing PTG to back this venture financially. It is truly inspiring to see the new, nimble PTG in action, able to turn on a dime (in contrast to the old, lumbering, ossified version).</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-tab-span style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"></SPAN>In a slightly more serious vein, I presume that you are saying that you will use your authority and persuasive ability to move forward on this project, finding some degree of support from home office in a technical way (probably at the cost of some number of PTG dollars, whether directly or indirectly), providing there are enough people willing to stick their necks out and say publicly that they will work on the project on a volunteer basis. Is this about right?</DIV> <DIV> <DIV apple-content-edited="true"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>Fred Sturm</DIV> <DIV>University of New Mexico</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</A></DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV></DIV></SPAN><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline></DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Jul 16, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Ward & Probst, Inc wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0">Fred,<BR><BR>Thanks for volunteering to help get this started. We've been talking about<BR>this project for a while. Anybody else willing to help?<BR><BR>DP<BR>Dale Probst, RPT<BR><A href="mailto:pres@ptg.org">pres@ptg.org</A></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>