<html> <body> Chris - My word! I've done my best to find the "last time" to which you refer, and can't.  <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">strangely not getting as far as we did the last time</blockquote> I looked at all your posts since May 20, 2006, with no success, and I've looked at Alan McCoy's posts, wherein I do find a number that are relevant, but none that refer to software or a determined group.  So I'm asking for some help.  Perhaps someone else can point me in the right direction.  still a wee bit o'pulse David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY At 09:33 PM 7/19/2008, Chris Solliday wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">this is pointless, but the point was it wasn't worth doing anything more than generally recalling it. The point was made that we were going down the same road and strangely not getting as far as we did the last time. At least we had a program and a group formed and everyone was enthusiastic. It was a bit like the football coach giving the pregame pep talk and all the players were climbing the walls and the coach yells let's get out there and win one for the... and the locker room door was locked. If there was an issue that was the exact issue. And this is the last itme I say dead is dead. Chris Solliday</blockquote></body> </html>