<WBR>David<br> <br> As I said, perhaps one individual could do the research and write an article. But to get more than one to do research and write and compilation of all the  information would be very time consuming for all parties  involved. Again, just my opinion.<br> <br> Wim <br> <br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net><br> To: caut@ptg.org<br> Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 6:12 pm<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] A Project that might Work<br> <br> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_b48b6fcf-f5ea-44b6-bf66-fe1662dd36af> <div align=left><WBR> </WBR><B style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">The advantage over an article by one individual is a consensus of many.   Even if a total agreement couldn't be completely reached, a few different approaches for a repair, for instance, could be given.   Soundboard replacement would be interesting...;-]</B> </div> <div align=left><B style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">David Ilvedson, RPT<br> Pacifica, CA 94044<br> </B></div> <div> </div> <div style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<br> From: "Willem Blees"  <br> To: <A href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A>, <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A><br> Received: 7/21/2008 9:00:10 PM<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] A Project that might20Work<br> <br> <div align=left><WBR> </WBR> Ed<br> <br> Although I understand the purpose of what you're trying to do, my feeling is that doing this kind of research would be very time consuming, when a large variety of technical, business, tuning topics, etc articles have already been written for the Journal in the past. If there is a specific topic that has not been covered, then I believe it would be much less time consuming to ask someone do some research on a particular topic and write an article about it. <br> <br> The archives are a good source of information, but to try to extract information from it as the basis for technical type articles, would, in my opinion, not be worth the effort. <br>  <br> </div> <div style="CLEAR: both">Wim<br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: Ed Sutton <<A href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A>><br> To: College and University Technicians <<A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>><br> Sent: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 1:49 pm<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] A Project that might Work<br> <br> </div> <div id=AOLMsgPart_2_e33eb776-52f0-4b72-993b-e9de86a226a0> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>David-</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>My response to Wim was shaped by his offer to write an article about the rep. spring. It was meant to clarify that this project wouldn't involve writing new articles, but would involve researching the archives to "harvest" material. It=2 0was not a specific suggestion, but an attempt to show how the process might work.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Part of the project would involve deciding on a list of topics to research in the archives. I don't think we should try to decide that now. I did propose a general range of topics which I feel would be of value, and would constitute a first attempt at extracting and organizing material from the CAUT archives.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>At this point I feel we need to assess how many people are willing to volunteer to do the work, and whether the CAUT Committee wants to sponsor it.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>A monthly Journal installment provides deadlines and a purpose. That need not be the end of the project. The material produced could be gathered into a book, and/or the topics could serve as a first level of organization under which more material could be compiled if the project disclosed more detail than could be used in the first compilation.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Assuming that my proposal is 1) interesting and 2) feasible, it remains to be seen if enough people are interested in following through.</FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed Sutton </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <div><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></div> <B style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidskolnik@optonline.net href="mailto:davidskolnik@optonline.net">David Skolnik</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 21, 2008 4:05 PM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] A Project that might Work</div> <div><br> </div> <br> <br> Eric / Ed -<br> Eric, is it fair to assume you have read both of Ed's posts on the subject?  It sounds, from the way I read the second, which was a clarification to Wim, like he is suggesting a very specific 'trial' topic, to see just how the process would work.   I wonder, in fact, what the harvesting, and digestion process would entail, but I'm foolish enough to be interested. You wouldn't want to leave it up to the individual search skills of the volunteer, right? You'd need to have some method.<br> <br> Ed - as you go along, I would like to see you refine / clarify the focus distinctions between the Journal, CAUT site, pianopedia, and refinements in list functioning.  I'm not sure the initiative20can or should be targeted equally.  You want to harvest the list and create a definitive document, but,20in theory, you need to know whether that definitiveness reflects all that was found on CAUT, or whether additional information would be added, if the CAUT data was found wanting.  And again, would this ignore information available on pianotech?<br> <br> Just some idle thoughts.<br> <br> Regards <br> <br> David Skolnik<br> <br> I'm having more trouble lately deciding what to quote and what to cut.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> At 02:55 PM 7/21/2008, Eric wrote:<br> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite type="cite">Hi Ed,<br>  <br> This seems like a great idea to me and I will run it by the committee to find a volunteer to coordinate such an effort. Perhaps it could be compiled and edited into topics which could be formatted and posted on the CAUT website as well. In this form it could be the beginnings of a pianopaedia forum with relevant technical info from identified authors which could growâ€¦<br>  <br> Eric<br>  <br> Eric Wolfley, RPT<br> Director of Piano Services<br> College-Conservatory of Music<br> University of Cincinnati<br> <B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A> [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org"> mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Sutton<br> <B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:27 PM<br> <B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<br> <B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] A Project that might Work<br>  <br> Dear CAUT List Folks-<br>  <br> Over the past year the <I>Journ al</I> has used gracious contributions of the CAUT Committee to expand our technical coverage.<br> In particular, Fred Stu rm has given us the use of his posts (edited by him, and a then little more by us) to show some methods of efficient institutional maintenance. Kent Swafford is currently compiling some earlier posts about sostenuto regulation (real tech posts about real regulation problems!), which we will soon publish. It would be wonderful if the Journal were to receive similar contributions on technical topics for an extended period.<br>  <br> A general range of topics could be: Institutional piano maintenance, Tuning, voicing, regulating the high performance piano.<br>  <br> I am suggesting the most productive effort would be focused on the practical daily work of the college technician. Other topics might eventually be covered under a different sponsor.<br>  <br> Articles should mostly be about generally accepted technical practice which can be replicated and tested, and any unusual opinions should clearly be identified as such.<br>  <br> The CAUT Committee would have  authority to review/plan/make topic assignments  for the project.<br>  <br> The CAUT Committee and Journal editors will create a "template" for the articles, which should facilitate production.<br>  <br> The <I>Journal</I> editors will contribute editing, spelling and photo shop skills to the project.<br>  <br> If we can agree on this model, or some modification of it, and get approval from the CAUT Committee, we can proceed to the next levels of development, such as listing possible topics, discussing how to extract the material, assigning writers, etc.<br> 0A <br> I would like to hear responses to this idea.<br>  <br> [Please don't use clever names and cute phrases. I can't understand them.]<br>  <br> Thank you!<br>  <br> Ed Sutton<br> writing now as editor of <I>PTJournal<br> </I> <br>  <br> No virus found in this incoming message.<br> Checked by AVG. <br> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1563 - Release Date: 7/20/2008 12:59 PM</BLOCKQUOTE><br> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE></B></div> <div class=aol_ad_footer id=u8CAB9C6923DFE12-E94-144B><FONT style="FONT: 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF; COLOR: black"> <HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px"> The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. <A title=http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014 href="http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014" target=_blank>Get the TMZ Toolbar Now</A>!</FONT> </div> </div> </div> <div id='u8CAB9E81D29B242-D0C-19AD' class='aol_ad_footer'><FONT style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. <A title="http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014" href="http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp00050000000014" target="_blank">Get the TMZ Toolbar Now</A>!</FONT> </div>