<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1611" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: SimSun; } @font-face { font-family: SimSun; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: @SimSun; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 11pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>not to worry, he knows all, as do we</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kenbean@pacbell.net href="mailto:kenbean@pacbell.net">Kendall Ross Bean</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">'College and University Technicians'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:34 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Barbie tuner; Accutuner "pitch"</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris~</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's the spirit!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Just make sure Rick Baldassin doesn't find out you're soliciting in his area...)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>;-).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial size=2>~Kendall</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=001283016-26072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Chris Solliday [mailto:csolliday@rcn.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Barbie tuner<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll be happy to send you a SAT lll brochure to give to whomever. Maybe if they compare specs on paper, visually, they'll note the difference.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris Solliday</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Accu-tuner dealer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:38 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Barbie tuner</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Interesting!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I simply used both the SAT and the Verituner to read A4 as did he with his Barbie toy. I really don’t know what his toy reads, nor exactly what both my ETDs read, but what I do know is that both my ETDs read the one piano right on A440 and the other at A443 (Right where I tuned them) and his BT read that BOTH pianos were at A442!  I don’t know if partial/inharmonicity can account for that much discrepancy or not. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Or…… Maybe his $25.00 toy is just a piece of crap which should be never see the light of day, and I can suggest where that is  ;-)  (That’s my 10 year old ego speaking, from the heart.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Let’s see what  happens today. I’ve had several performers say they loved the pianos, but as usual, I try to tune according to my best experience/knowledge while trying to take into account that most feedback, good and bad, should be taken with a grain of salt. Sometimes the bad needs a bit more salt!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Jim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kendall Ross Bean<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 25, 2008 9:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'College and University Technicians'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Barbie tuner<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jim~</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I just had an inspiration!</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">You could both be right! (-now don't lose me here...this is important) :</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Which <EM><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">partial</SPAN></EM> was the oboe player listening to? And you! Which partial were you tuning to? (Uh huh, I thought so!)</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">You see! It IS possible. It's spelled I..N..H..A..R..M..O..N..I...C...I...T...Y...</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Did you know that oboe tone is closest to a pure sine wave? And that pure sine waves are most always perceived as flat? (Oh yes, -most 'specially by piano tooners)</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Just go read Harvey Fletcher.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">;-)</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">~Kendall Ross Bean</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Jim Busby [mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 25, 2008 2:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Barbie tuner</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal>List,<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>I won’t name the fellow, but at the International Double Reed Society conference here at BYU there is this “oboist” who is running around with this tiny guitar tuner complaining that all the instruments are off. He confronted me before one of his performances saying that the pitch of the Shigeru was not A440 but was A442. He said the Hamburg D was also A442 (Was supposed to be at A443). I told him I was confident the pitch was where it was supposed to be on both instruments and that maybe his small tuner was off. BAD thing to say! Boy was he mad! After his performance, when most the people were gone, the head honcho watched me measure the pianos. Less than 4/10ths of one cent off… (Dang! Will I ever learn to keep my pitch dead on?)<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>Funny, but almost all his high notes were extremely flat. Or maybe I’m just dreaming…<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>Jim Busby<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>p.s. Other than this unfortunate experience everyone else is very nice and complimentary. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>