<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1611" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A search of PayPal will reveal many negative user sites. The last time I researched it I decided not to use it and nothing has happened since to change my mind. Not that American Express handled a problem with a camera purchase I made from a fraud pumping discounter to my satisfaction, not a well researched buy on my part though. If I had spent the time to reasearch the discounter as well as I did PayPal I never would have used them.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> The important things to remember that I have learned the hard way over the years on the web are: "caveat emptor (buyer beware)," have a good internet security sytem in place and don't be stupid. But there's no guarantee that a bigger faster smarter fish won't take a bite out of you from time to time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my two cents.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris Solliday</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ptuner1@gmail.com href="mailto:ptuner1@gmail.com">Avery Todd</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:02 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Paypal</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV>Just for the record, it wasn't my account. It was just something I ran across that I thought might be of interest to some of you who use Paypal. </DIV> <DIV><BR>Avery Todd<BR></DIV> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Susan Kline <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:skline@peak.org">skline@peak.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <DIV>Steve, as I see it, the problem is this: <BR><BR>Someone hacked Avery's iTunes password, but to pay for it with Paypal, they'd have had to somehow hack into his Paypal account as well. When I go to pay for something with Paypal, I have to sign in and use my password. If somebody got into Avery's Paypal account without his password, this is Paypal's problem. Unless, of course, Avery's iTunes password and his Paypal password were the same -- never a good idea. <BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>Susan <BR></FONT> <DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR>At 03:50 PM 8/1/2008, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">"Due to some <FONT size=2>lax security policies that Appl</FONT>e has thankfully since updated, someone was able to use my birth date to obtain my iTunes password, and get into my account. They then managed to use that information to give themselves a nice little gift of $450 worth of iTunes gift cards… courtesy of my PayPal account."<BR><BR>Apple got paid for the gift cards.  It was their security problem.  Why would PayPal pay for this?<BR><BR>Shouldn't we be bashing Apple instead of PayPal?</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>