<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1528" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue> <DIV> <DIV>Hi again --</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In terms of precedents, someone I met this summer told me that in the 1960's she was enrolled in a piano-tech associate's degree program at a Connecticut state junior college, but the program was cancelled in the midst of her studies due to low enrollment and a state-mandated move away from craft training in the junior colleges.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dorrie</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=poppyspys@yahoo.com href="mailto:poppyspys@yahoo.com">poppyspys@yahoo.com</A>;<A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and UniversityTechnicians</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 8/27/2008 2:23:02 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Degrees in Piano Technology?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">But… there are no “degrees”? Anywhere? Does anyone know if U. of Western Ontario offers a degree? I couldn’t get that out of their website.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If anyone should be given the right to give a college degree it would be NBSS.  They are fantastic! Many other programs are very good too, but as someone pointed out to me, anyone can offer a “certificate” but if an actual accredited University has a degree if has a lot more weight with academia. (Not my words…)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I understand that Owen Jorgensen had a degree offered where he was. Does anyone know?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’m being pressed by a new University to pursue this but want to find a precedent, if one exits. It’s always harder to “reinvent the wheel”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Jim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Poppy Miles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Degrees in Piano Technology?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in" vAlign=top> <P class=MsoNormal>In addition to the Emil Fries school in Vancouver WA, there are several other piano technology programs: The North Bennet St School has a two year program in piano tuning repair, and rebuilding ( in the second year), Chicago School of Piano Technology offers a one year program, Minnesota offers a program as well, I believe Larry Crab has a program in Georgia, Randy Potter has a corespondence course, and The University of Western Ontario has a one year program in piano tuning and rebuilding. I am partial to The North Bennet St School (as I am an alumni).  I've also heard some good things about the University of Western Ontario.  All of these programs offer certificates as opposed to degrees. <BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 8/25/08, Karen Lindsley <I><36keys@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">From: Karen Lindsley <36keys@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Degrees in Piano Technology?<BR>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org><BR>Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:30 PM<o:p></o:p></P> <DIV id=yiv431524809> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">There is a two year program for the blind in Vancouver Washington at the School of Piano Technology for the Blind.  This is a certificate program as opposed to a degree program, but certainly prepares you for entry level work.<o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote>On 8/25/08, <B>Jim Busby</B> <<A href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu" target=_blank>jim_busby@byu.edu</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>List,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>Are there any degrees in Piano Technology currently offered in the U.S., besides Florida State's Masters program? I know we've posted numerous things in the past about this with many CAUTs starting classes, etc. but has anyone succeeded in getting an associate or bachelors degree going?? <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>Thanks all.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>Jim Busby BYU<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>