<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"> <title>[CAUT] Reasonable job descriptions</title> <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>With no true “credentials” that are universally recognized by administrators, and when there are ten mediocre techs  eager to accept CAUT positions at lower salaries, how are we supposed to “stand up” to upgrade the field? I’m not trying to be a jerk, and I’m not offended by your rather blunt statements below, because you’re absolutely correct; we “deserve what we are metered out”. But if we all did what Jeff did, would that force the issue with the institutions? Not necessarily! Precisely because of what you wrote below; “The attitude of the administration…Dime a Dozen” <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Now, what is the solution? The options seem to be the following;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maintain the “status quo”<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Boycott, quit en masse, or otherwise show solidarity and force the issue<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gradually upgrade each situation individually, one at a time<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Establish a CAUT credential as Eric, Fred and the CAUT committee is  trying to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>       </span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size: 11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(A combination of the above #3 and #4)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>My choice is #5; to push for a credential while trying to upgrade my own situation. I have been offered twice the money in the private sector, but that would mean I’d have to abandon the only place where I may be able to have some influence on the situation. It would be comparable to someone angrily quitting the union instead of staying in and trying to change it from within.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Now, I really respect Jeff and don’t mean to say ill of him quitting, because he needed to quit for many reasons. I like it that he is so relieved and happy with what he’s doing now. I have considered doing the same for years. But as I mentioned last month, this job is MUCH more than the salary represented. (My “20 reasons” post) But alas, I still long for more…<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>When Andrew Carnegie was asked “How much is the perfect wage? What should be the standard salary for anyone?” He responded, “I know the answer. Here is the salary that everyone should have; A little bit more.”<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Jim Busby<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Page<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 08, 2008 4:28 PM<br> <b>To:</b> caut@ptg.org<br> <b>Subject:</b> [CAUT] Reasonable job descriptions<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If universities require so much experience</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>with concert level tech ability, then they should cough up the bucks and</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>pay for it.  Their reputation is on the line. There's got to be a way to</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>open these folks eyes to see what they have to lose, but I don't know what</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>it is.....</span><o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>Why should they, their offers are being met by yourselves. JeffTanner<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>seems to be the only guy standing up to upgrade this very field.  Kudos.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>If you don't have the tenacity to make it on your own in the private sector,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>accept what your are metered out.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>Personally I think it is disgraceful what is paid for piano technicians at a<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>caut setting where comparable administrative positions (bureaucrats)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>receive a pay grade in multiple factors.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>We just have not yet come into our own, just yet.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>As long as 'become a piano tuner' is promoted on the back of a pack of matches,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>what kind of credibility can there be.  Alright maybe exaggerated a bit, I haven't<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>actually seen the advert.  But you get my intention.   But that's the attitude<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>of the administration, Dime a Dozen.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>Put in for more money. Get reclassified if it is a state pay grade. Why should<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>piano techs. Are p-techs on the same grade as custodians (janitors)?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>Even Dr. Phil says, "(In ways) You tell people how to treat you."<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal>Gotta go, have more to say...<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><br> Regards,<br> <br> Jon Page<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </body> </html>