<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:D="DAV:" xmlns:x2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ois="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec="http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcxf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:wf="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:mver="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:ex12t="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:Z="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st="" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#215868'>I wonder if it measures as it goes does it violate some patents held by other manufacturers?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#215868'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#215868'>dp<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#215868'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas; color:#215868'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas; color:#215868'>David M. Porritt, RPT<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas; color:#215868'><a href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#215868'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Sutton<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 17, 2008 6:23 PM<br> <b>To:</b> College and University Technicians<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAUT] P-12ths was: Tuning a Steinway D andaBosendorferImperialtogether<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It seems that the device does not calculate curves, since the tuning of each note seems to be a discrete decision.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is it possible that it measures the inharmonicity of the note, or perhaps several partials, and based upon this makes a decision (perhaps using a collection of of previously established templates), on the place to tune the note?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Perhaps it has a set of ideal curves for various partials, and an algorithm to calculate a "best fit" compromise, one note at a time?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Ed Sutton</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:mcpianos@hotmail.com" title="mcpianos@hotmail.com">Marcel Carey</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Friday, October 17, 2008 6:47 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [CAUT] P-12ths was: Tuning a Steinway D andaBosendorferImperial together<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Well Don, I had read that page, but I was wondering about the actual working of the program. I wrote privatly to Kent to ask what were the features or the actual handling of the machine. It seems (if I understood correctly) that there is no pitch adjustment or pitch raise function, no measurements taken, not to mention file savings. My big question is does the program measure and calculate a perfect tuning for each piano or is it just like 1 tuning file in a box. This tuning file being so perfect that it would fit all pianos...<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>This is my question. Before I invest over a thousand dollars in something like this, I would like to see screen shots of the differents features I'm used to with other tuning programs TL, Veritune and CyberTuner.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Marcel<br> <br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling> </span></div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <br> > Hi Marcel,<br> > <br> > Do you mean this page?<br> > <br> > http://www.piano-stopper.de/html/stopper_tuning1.html<br> > <br> > At 04:50 AM 10/17/2008 -0400, you wrote:<br> > > Hi Kent,&S and Bosendorfer sounded so good together.I'm not too sure.<br> > >Wish Bernhard would tell us more about his program and add some tweeking<br> > >functions in it.Marcel Carey<br> > ><br> <br> > <br> > mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/<br> > <br> > 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7<br> > 306-539-0716 or 1-888-29t-uner<br> > <o:p></o:p></span></p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </span></div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Utilisez Windows Live Messenger pour envoyer des messages sur les cellulaires de vos amis <a href="http://www.pc2mobile.ca/fr" target="_new">Plus de d�tails sur notre site PC@cellulaire</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>