<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Dale, so I hit send before finishing, but I think it's time to move<div>towards a progressive center of these discussions, about where</div><div>redesign fits into the institutional setting without compromising</div><div>certain Steinway tonal standards. I can't imagine any dialog between</div><div>a tech and rebuilder/re-designer that <span>doesn't</span> include " I will re-design </div><div>this because my science is better than their experience." In the </div><div>context of support I think the attitude should bend towards </div><div>how can my design work compliment the factory without alienating</div><div>the core tonal expectations that will exist on stage for the </div><div>foreseeable future. That's the model of collaboration I believe is </div><div>a workable venue that will also in the end not
jeopardize anyone's </div><div>job, either employed tech or rebuilder trying to promote a quality project.</div><div><br></div><div> What working towards the center for mutual gain means to me </div><div>would be for example, introducing a re-designed Steinway into</div><div>a smaller recital setting, perhaps meant for more ensemble work that</div><div>would promote clarity and projection with a palette of color not</div><div>usually heard in the larger hall needing an edge. That's the </div><div>disconnect I am talking about here that I have yet to read over</div><div>the past weeks including the premise that your redesign should</div><div>be within some tolerance of the norm without the ego that says "this is </div><div>the best I've ever heard." Ya, I would say there's some bias when </div><div>it sounds like a few are linked into " A Legend in my own Mind.com." </div><div>How
about joining forces with tradition to improve clarity, sustain, and </div><div>power without taking credit for re-inventing the wheel, just improving on it?</div><div><br></div><div>Brent</div><div><br>--- On <b>Sun, 2/27/11, Dale Erwin <i><erwinspiano@aol.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Dale Erwin <erwinspiano@aol.com><br>Subject: Re: [<span><span>CAUT</span></span>] beginning luck<br>To: caut@ptg.org<br>Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 9:02 PM<br><br><div id="yiv661167787"><font color="black" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">
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Disconnect? What disconnect? <br>
I guess I missed that one . So, (this designer/re-designer of a variety of types of board structures),..... was too busy working at the<u> college</u>.<br>
Am I pickin up some continuous undercurrent of bias.?<br>
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From: Brent Fischer <brent.fischer@yahoo.com><br>
To: caut@ptg.org<br>
Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:26 pm<br>
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<div> It's ironic to me that the same disconnect between "re-designers" and</div>
<div>institutions parallels in much the same way as the Steinway lack of</div>
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--- On <b>Sun, 2/27/11, Fred <span><span><span><span><span>Sturm</span></span></span></span></span> <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
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From: Fred Sturm <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fssturm@unm.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=fssturm@unm.edu">fssturm@unm.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck<br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:caut@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br>
Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:20 PM<br>
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<div class="yiv661167787plainMail">On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Brent Fischer wrote:<br>
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> secondly get to Steinway<br>
> factory sessions often and mostly get to their C&A training in the
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> and come away with their endorsement of your work, and leave your<br>
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Hi Brent,<br>
I think the C & A training (if you mean the final of the four regular one-week sessions) has changed quite a bit since you went. A couple years ago when I went, there were four of us in the usual room, and the only real difference between it and the "tone regulation" session was that we had Bs and Ds instead of smaller pianos. No work in the basement. I was disappointed, as I had heard there would only be two students, and there would be some work with the C & A guys, maybe in the basement. Of course, since then Kent Webb has taken over the "Academy" so it might have changed again.<br>
No need to leave the ETD behind, in fact better not to, as tuning was done by all four simultaneously, with only flimsy doors dividing us. Oh, and "their endorsement of
your work" is at best informal. It is made clear that you are not certified by Steinway, though I did actually get a certificate for the last session. But it said something like "attended the concert prep session," not even weak wording like "completed." Obviously you can let people know you did the training, but you are not supposed to imply anything beyond that. The world changes.<br>
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Fred Sturm<br>
University of New Mexico<br>
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