<font color='black' size='2' face='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif'>I <font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2">am a C.S. Lewis fan but this doesn't really resonate here. I hope there is an end in view? <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div style="clear: both;"><b><font color="indigo" size="1"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="2">Dale S. Erwin<br> </font></font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font size="1">www.Erwinspiano.com</font></font><br> <font size="1">Custom restoration<br> Ronsen Piano hammers<br> Join the Weickert felt Revolution<br> 209-577-8397</font></font><br> 209-985-0990</font><font size="1"><br> </font></b><br> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Brent Fischer <brent.fischer@yahoo.com><br> To: caut@ptg.org<br> Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 8:39 pm<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_3fe6b22e-152f-4d6e-8ca7-d931c1b6bb3f"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Dale, <div>   </div> <div>    C.S Lewis once said "criticism should have and end in view <br> <br> --- On <b>Sun, 2/27/11, Dale Erwin <i><<a href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br> From: Dale Erwin <<a href="mailto:erwinspiano@aol.com">erwinspiano@aol.com</a>><br> Subject: Re: [<span>CAUT</span>] beginning luck<br> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 9:02 PM<br> <br> <div id="yiv1320046354"><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif" size="2"> <div>  <font size="3">Hey Brent<br>  Disconnect? What disconnect?  <br>  I guess I missed that one . So, (this designer/re-designer of a variety of types of board structures),..... was too busy working at the<u> college</u>.<br>  Am I pickin up some continuous undercurrent of bias.?<br> </font> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div style="clear: both;"><b><font color="indigo" size="1"><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="2">Dale S. Erwin<br> </font></font><font face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font size="1"><a href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com" target="_blank">www.Erwinspiano.com</a></font></font><br> </font></font><font size="1"><br> </font></b><br> <br> </div> <div> </div> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Brent Fischer <<a href="mailto:brent.fischer@yahoo.com">brent.fischer@yahoo.com</a>><br> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br> Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 7:26 pm<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck<br> <br> <div id="yiv1320046354AOLMsgPart_2_ff617abb-9b5e-42f7-8099-3210ef01d89b"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Hey Fred, <div><br> </div> <div>   It's ironic to me that the same disconnect between "re-designers" and</div> <div>institutions parallels in much the same way as the Steinway lack of</div> <div>technical follow up after an "All-Steinway" school has paid a million</div> <div>for the designation</div> <div>Brent </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> --- On <b>Sun, 2/27/11, Fred <span><span><span><span><span>Sturm</span></span></span></span></span> <i><<a rel="nofollow">fssturm@unm.edu</a>></i></b> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br> From: Fred Sturm <<a rel="nofollow">fssturm@unm.edu</a>><br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] beginning luck<br> To: <a rel="nofollow">caut@ptg.org</a><br> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 2:20 PM<br> <br> <div class="yiv1320046354plainMail">On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Brent Fischer wrote:<br> <br> >  secondly get to Steinway<br> > factory sessions often and mostly get to their C&A training in the basement<br> > and come away with their endorsement of your work, and leave your<br> > electronic tuning aid at home when you go.<br> <br> <br> Hi Brent,<br>     I think the C & A training (if you mean the final of the four regular one-week sessions) has changed quite a bit since you went. A couple years ago when I went, there were four of us in the usual room, and the only real difference between it and the "tone regulation" session was that we had Bs and Ds instead of smaller pianos. No work in the basement. I was disappointed, as I had heard there would only be two students, and there would be some work with the C & A guys, maybe in the basement. Of course, since then Kent Webb has taken over the "Academy" so it might have changed again.<br>     No need to leave the ETD behind, in fact better not to, as tuning was done by all four simultaneously, with only flimsy doors dividing us. Oh, and "their endorsement of your work" is at best informal. It is made clear that you are not certified by Steinway, though I did actually get a certificate for the last session. But it said something like "attended the concert prep session," not even weak wording like "completed." Obviously you can let people know you did the training, but you are not supposed to imply anything beyond that. The world changes.<br> Regards,<br> Fred Sturm<br> University of New Mexico<br> <a rel="nofollow">fssturm@unm.edu</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> </div> </blockquote></div> </td></tr></tbody></table><br> </div> </div> </font></font> </div> </blockquote></div> </td></tr></tbody></table><br> </div>  </div> </font></font>