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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We just had an interesting experience along these
lines with a S&S B.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We uses a 3/4" socket to tighten the plate bolts
down. The bolts I had previously tightened with a small crescent wrench and
thought they were tight. Not so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The head of each bolt on the rim turned about 1/3
turn, giving I'm sure more down bearing, and bringing this B to
life.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DIV>
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<A title=pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu
href="mailto:pwilliams4@unlnotes.unl.edu">Paul T Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 08, 2011 2:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on
new NY hammers/ Re-visited</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Hi again all.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
size=2 face=sans-serif>I'm on my second set of "new hammers" from S&S for
a Steinway B. It's like night and day on this set over the first set for
the D. It's more like what I thought I was going to get from the first
set for the D. I'm bringing down some twangy notes in the lower tenor
and here and there, juicing up the upper octaves and the very lowest bass.
but these are actually quite nice and easy to work with. Go
figgur!</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>I spent a lot of time on
the D I complained about several months ago, and now have it sounding quite
nice after switching it with the main stage for the big lecture hall.
Juiced some more (tilting action on the side and applying under the
crown.) It's pretty good. Not a concerto instrument by any means
(telling me a soundboard tiredness issue....and all say it was never very
powerful...so, a soundboard problem from the beginning, maybe???).
</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Just thought y'all should
know that there is no reliable expectations on any set. I have a couple
other sets for some M's to get to later this summer and fall when returning
from KC. We'll see....</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>So, I will
also add that the Abel Naturals are always very predictable from set to set.
Hmmmmmm... I get great reviews on pianos I put these on; on
different brands....Perhaps that I've now become used to them and know what
they do since they're pretty much the same set to set....</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
size=2 face=sans-serif>Who all is going to KC? Should be a great
conference. </FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Best, and see
you there, I hope!</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Paul</FONT>
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<TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>From:</FONT>
<TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>Paul T Williams
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<TD><FONT color=#5f5f5f size=1 face=sans-serif>Date:</FONT>
<TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>01/14/2011 11:14 AM</FONT>
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<TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NY
hammers/ Re-visited</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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<BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif>Hi Kent and all,</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>I quite discouraged with the set
of factory hammers for one of our D's we discussed a couple months ago.
I've had to juice them several times all over. I still don't like
the tenor and killer octaves all the way up to C-7. They're hung nice
and straight, but for fun, I moved the action in and out a small amount
(like2-4mm) to see if the killer area was going to need altering in the strike
point. Not much happened, so they stay where they are.</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>Of course, they haven't
had a lot of playing in yet. I get so-so fff and the ppp is pretty good.
I don't like much of anything inbetween except the middle 2 octaves and
bass. It's just weak sounding. String mating is good and regulation is
great, so it's either that these aren't a great set of hammers, or the
soundboard has some issues (this piano is from the 80's or early 90's)
It was a C&A piano, so it's got a different serial number, but
that's what Richard West says, and since he was here, that's what it
is...</FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>I might
consider trying some Hamburg hammers sometime, but I'll really have to think
long and hard about getting another NY set.</FONT><FONT size=3>
<BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>What about y'all?</FONT><FONT
size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>Paul</FONT><FONT size=3>
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<TD width="84%"><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>Kent Swafford
<kswafford@gmail.com></FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT>
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<TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>10/13/2010 05:27 PM</FONT><FONT size=3>
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<TD><FONT size=1 face=sans-serif>Re: [CAUT] How much voicing on new NY
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<FONT size=3><BR><BR><BR>I have found no consistent answer to your question.
The last set of D hammers I put on needed to be juiced up a bit in the top two
sections and was then ready to go; the set before that has been juiced twice
throughout and is not yet bright enough; the one before that was OK in the
tenor but needed to be juiced everywhere else. <BR><BR>Hanging these is like
spinning the wheel of fortune. I'd be interested in knowing where yours land.
<BR><BR>Kent <BR><BR><BR>On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:
<BR></FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR>Hi all</FONT><FONT size=3>
</FONT><FONT size=2 face=sans-serif><BR><BR>Quick question; how much
voicing is typically needed on the new NY hammers for our D? I have a
very small window to put a set on our D in the main hall. They're
pre-hung and I have them here in the shop. The project starts
tomorrow.</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif><BR><BR>Thanks</FONT><FONT size=3> </FONT><FONT size=2
face=sans-serif><BR>Paul</FONT><FONT size=3>
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