<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Got it</span><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">, and thanks for the explanation. Is there any simple demonstration model that can readily A/B the effects of crown (with its attendant resonance/sustain and power/projection) vs. no crown, preferably on the same piece of surrogate soundboard? That is what is really needed to faithfully get the point across.</font> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2"><br> </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2">Alan Eder<br> </font><br> <br> <div style="font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Delwin D Fandrich <del@fandrichpiano.com><br> To: caut <caut@ptg.org><br> Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 1:01 pm<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork<br> <br> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce"> <style>#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce td{color: black;} @font-face {font-family:Helvetica; panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Helvetica; panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce p.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce li.MsoNormal,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce p.MsoAcetate,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce li.MsoAcetate,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce div.MsoAcetate {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char"; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce span.apple-style-span {mso-style-name:apple-style-span;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce p.msochpdefault,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce li.msochpdefault,#AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce div.msochpdefault {mso-style-name:msochpdefault; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce span.emailstyle17 {mso-style-name:emailstyle17;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce span.EmailStyle20 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:navy; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce span.EmailStyle21 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Comic Sans MS"; color:navy; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce span.BalloonTextChar {mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text"; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} #AOLMsgPart_1_b879c150-bcc1-4aa7-807e-ee87a321cdce div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} </style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Assuming we’re thinking of the same device, it demonstrates nothing besides the fact that you can make a piece of wood that is forcibly bent by applying pressure to its ends—i.e., longitudinally to grain—resonant. This is not how piano soundboards are crowned nor is it how they work.</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">ddf</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Delwin D Fandrich</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><u><span style="color:blue">del@fandrichpiano.com </span></u></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">— </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"><a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><u><span style="color:blue">ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Eder<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 11, 2012 11:48 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">By no stretch of the imagination it is my personal call what to include in the final cut of the film, but I am very interested in your critique of the phenomenon this model is designed to </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:">demonstrate, and would like to see your perspective integrated into the discussion. Please elaborate on your comment.</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Thanks,</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Alan Eder</span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Delwin D Fandrich <<a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><span style="color:windowtext">del@fandrichpiano.com</span></a>><br> To: caut <<a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org"><span style="color:windowtext">caut@ptg.org</span></a>><br> Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 11:01 am<br> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></div> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_08889b28-6633-426c-828d-2e13ca52b090"> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Why would you want to include such misinformation in what might otherwise be a technically accurate presentation?</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">ddf</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Delwin D Fandrich</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Piano Design & Fabrication</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525</span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"><a href="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com"><u><span style="color:blue">del@fandrichpiano.com </span></u></a>— <a href="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com"><u><span style="color:blue">ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org"><u><span style="color:blue">caut-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a> [<a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org?"><u><span style="color:blue">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Eder<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 11, 2012 9:38 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org"><u><span style="color:blue">caut@ptg.org</span></u></a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></div> </div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> <div> <div id="AOLMsgPart_1_1e4f1982-d02d-41d9-84fb-19e74250044d"> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">List, </span></div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">As you may or may not know, there is a film being made about the rebuilding of a Steinway grand by Richard Davenport and cohorts called "Raising a Grand." Most of the shooting is already in the can, but we are still getting some pick-up shots. In order to demonstrate the need for crown in a piano soundboard, we would like to use one of those Mason and Hamlin demonstration models in which the mini-soundboard can readily have crown added or taken away, to demonstrate the pronounced difference presence or absence of crown can make. Anyone who can provide us with such a beast will be properly compensated with our undying thanks and a Reward In Heaven. </span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Thanks,</span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Alan Eder</span></div> </div> <div> <div style="margin-left:36.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> </span></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div>  </div> </div> </font>