<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div><br /><br /> I'm "chiming in" on this now because I failed to, previously, and ran across it while deleting emails...<br /><br /> Should it not be remembered that the M&H turnbuckle device does not CREATE crown ( that is done during board construction) but rather is intended to merely preserve it (in all planes, even if ever so slight) by preventing "case spread"?<br /> Would those who are so critical of the efficacy of this device ( and the very importance of crown ) also fully explain to us, please, why they impart crown, at all, in their own board designs? (Yes, I belive it has been well explained as "for stiffness" -- but perhaps the "spider" assists in this, and serves another function also - such as in transferral of vibration equitably from one part of the case to another, and consequently back to the board, helping to create the M&H's
nearly unique, signature, resonance.) <br /> Could not the value of the M&H device be simply demonstrated by temporarily removing one, and making a scientific before/after analyzation of tone? ( In same RH, temperature, barometric pressure and etc..) <br /><br />Most Respectfully,<br />Thumpe</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork <br>
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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy;'>Assuming we’re thinking of the same device, it demonstrates nothing besides the fact that you can make a piece of wood that is forcibly bent by applying pressure to its ends—i.e., longitudinally to grain—resonant. This is not how piano soundboards are crowned nor is it how they work.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy;'>ddf</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'>Delwin D Fandrich</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#632423;'></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'>Piano Design & Fabrication</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#632423;'></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#632423;'>6939 Foothill Court SW, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'>Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'>Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#632423;'></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span
style='color:blue;'>del@fandrichpiano.com </span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'>— </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#632423;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:navy;'></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy;'> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";'> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Eder<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 11, 2012 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> caut@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason &
Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>By no stretch of the imagination it is my personal call what to include in the final cut of the film, but I am very interested in your critique of the phenomenon this model is designed to </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style='font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>demonstrate, and would like to see your perspective integrated into the discussion. Please elaborate on your comment.</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Thanks,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Alan Eder</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Delwin D Fandrich <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><span style='color:windowtext;'>del@fandrichpiano.com</span></a>><br>To: caut <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:caut@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><span
style='color:windowtext;'>caut@ptg.org</span></a>><br>Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 11:01 am<br>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_08889b28-6633-426c-828d-2e13ca52b090"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Why would you want to include such misinformation in what might otherwise be a technically accurate presentation?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>ddf</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"
style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Delwin D Fandrich</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Piano Design & Fabrication</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Phone 360.515.0119 — Cell 360.388.6525</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:del@fandrichpiano.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>del@fandrichpiano.com
</span></u></a>— <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ddfandrich@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>ddfandrich@gmail.com</span></u></a></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>caut-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a> [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org?" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</span></u></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan Eder<br><b>Sent:</b>
Friday, May 11, 2012 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:caut@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return"><u><span style='color:blue;'>caut@ptg.org</span></u></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [CAUT] Fwd: Mason & Hamlin soundboard model with tuning fork</span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div><div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_1e4f1982-d02d-41d9-84fb-19e74250044d"><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>List, </span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal"
style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>As you may or may not know, there is a film being made about the rebuilding of a Steinway grand by Richard Davenport and cohorts called "Raising a Grand." Most of the shooting is already in the can, but we are still getting some pick-up shots. In order to demonstrate the need for crown in a piano soundboard, we would like to use one of those Mason and Hamlin demonstration models in which the mini-soundboard can readily have crown added or taken away, to demonstrate the pronounced difference presence or absence of crown can make. Anyone who can provide us with such a beast will be properly compensated with our undying thanks and a Reward In Heaven. </span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Thanks,</span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'>Alan Eder</span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-left:36.0pt;'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;'> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></td>
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