<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>Thanks again Jon, you have my interest, can we wrestle with the subject a bit = more though?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>As a critical point, it would seem measuring front weight, strike weight, = installing adjustment screws and (perhaps) moving capstans would be more (rather = than less) complicated than Chris' method.  Afterall, we are merely removing = surplus lead "wholesale" (intuitively nonetheless), = "ballparking" the springs (within 5 or 6g), then trimming with a single lead = (slide-scale fashion).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>I've de-leaded before using a "cancel-weight" method.  It is = quite accurate, but certainly more time consuming than the = above.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>I appreciate your recommendation Jon, and wonder how much time is involved = in your (Stanwood's) approach?   </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>This repair order as you may recall, was a 1963 B, weighing-off well, but = playing poorly, and carrying a whole lot of lead. As the turbo wippen allowed a = return to typical leading, provided ideal DW, UW & F with moderate spring = tension, and a touch consistant with our favourite pianos, I'm inclined to stick = with my original assessment.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>My question is whether the (seemingly) large amount of additional work = required by NTM will provide a worthy benefit, beyond what the turbo- wippens have = already provided? I will rough-in the regulation and get this instrument in-use = for awhile. Is it worthwhile to access front weight, strike weight and = action ratio in future?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>Understood, I'm asking the subjective Jon, but appreciate your opinion.  Others as well.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>BTW, yes the "D" is back in action, or should I say "the = action is back in D?  :>)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>Mark Cramer, RPT</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT = color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Brandon University</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>   </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>   </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=630210916-19092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial = size=2>  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org">owner-caut@ptg.org</A> [mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Jon = Page<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 18, 2000 9:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: = turbo-guru speaks<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3>Graduate the = hammer Strike Weight and the key Front Weight to spec curves<BR>supplied by = David. Key Ratio alteration may also be needed (moving capstans).<BR><BR>Pre-tension the assist springs to just support the = wippen while installing.<BR><BR>Then by adjusting the assist spring = tensioning screw, to produce the desired<BR>Balance Weight, it takes about 45 = minutes for the keyboard.<BR><BR><BR>I also remove the dog-leg from the = butterfly spring with a pair of wire bending<BR>pliers made from lineman = pliers. In one operation it introduces a nice curve to<BR>the wire which rides = the Teflon nut and places the contact point more towards<BR>the front of = the wip giving a longer spring arm.<BR><BR>Jon Page<BR><BR>At 07:05 PM = 09/18/2000 -0500, you wrote:<BR></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE cite type = cite><FONT color=#0000ff face=arial = size=2>Care to share with the class Jon?</FONT><FONT = size=3><BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=arial size=2>Mark</FONT><FONT = face=arial size=3><BR></FONT>David Stanwood has a much better approach to = releading with assist springs<BR>with the benefit of being inertially more = balanced.<BR>I've been applying his technique for eight years = and the method explained<BR><FONT size=3>below seems much more complicated.</FONT><BR><FONT size=3>Jon = Page</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Jon Page,   piano technician</DIV> <DIV>Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" EUDORA = = AUTOURL>mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net</A></DIV>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~ </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>