<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR><o:SmartTagType name="PlaceName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="PlaceType" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = khtml-line-break: after-white-space" vLink=purple link=blue bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On a = different note, Dan Levitan says that many people in NY are preferring women piano = technicians over men because they don’t want some strange man in their house. That = may indicate the need for more women technicians. It could also mean that = men techs need to be less “strange”.   :- = )"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So that means = I either have to have a sex "reassignment" operation or a strangectomy.  Great.  I have no idea which one would be the more expensive or arduous.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">:-(  JeffO</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jim_busby@byu.edu href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim = Busby</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 19, = 2006 10:01 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] disability insurance</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Jeff,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How much = does “disability insurance” cost? What does it cover? Would Brent = Fischer have been covered for his hearing loss? It brings a lot of questions to mind.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, The = LDS Church hasn’t gone to fingerprinting, but they are now requiring “two = deep leadership” which means that no adult can be alone with a minor. = (It’s not world wide, yet.) Also, there is a policy being considered that no = adult may sit a kid on his/her lap. That will certainly make the nursery (1-3 = years old) challenging when a kid falls and needs holding by the “mom” that = is in the nursery. Ridiculous! A shame. (Although, if my kid had been molested I = might feel different.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On a = different note, Dan Levitan says that many people in NY are preferring women piano = technicians over men because they don’t want some strange man in their house. = That may indicate the need for more women technicians. It could also mean that = men techs need to be less “strange”.   :- = )<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"> Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Jim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma"> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jeff = Tanner<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 19, = 2006 8:27 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = <st1:PersonName w:st="on">College and University = Technicians</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] disablity insurance</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Jeff Olson wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><FONT face=Arial = color=black size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><SPAN style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; border-spacing: 0px 0px; = khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; = orphans: 2; widows: 2">Agreed, Jim.  I may sound a bit bitter because I went through the same = thing -- UCD informed they would require those things.  I politely said = "Fine, but of course I'll need to charge you accordingly." </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jim, Jeff, Wim, all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It is my understanding that since the = lawsuits broke out against the Catholic church over child molestation, that there are = now seminars for lawyers to attend to learn how to sue churches.  We = now have to agree to federal background checks just to teach sunday school to = children.  So, I am convinced that churches are requiring this kind of = protection for anyone who might come under their roof while a child or anyone = else who could be a victim of any kind of malicious intent is present.  It = is indeed a different world.  Will church members start having to = carry liability insurance to attend = services?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Not sure I understand the workman's comp = requirement, though.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I do invest the few extra dollars per = paycheck for the extended disability coverage.  The state covers short term = disabiliity.  I used to sell insurance, and I think it is a smart few bucks to = spend.  We once were taught that statistics are that you are 7 = times more likely to become disabled than to die prematurely.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you're looking at that highly advertised = product, I'd do some shopping around. That duck costs a lot of money and its = got to come from somewhere.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jeff<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><SPAN style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; border-spacing: 0px 0px; = khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; = orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=black = size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Jeff = Tanner, RPT<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType = w:st="on"><FONT face=Helvetica color=black size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Helvetica">University</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceType><FONT face=Helvetica color=black size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">South Carolina</st1:PlaceName></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT = face=Helvetica color=black size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Helvetica"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=black = size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Helvetica"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Helvetica color=black = size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: = Helvetica"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></SPAN> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML= >