<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=us-ascii"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator><LINK= href="cid:filelist.xml@01C3C6F0.AFC77140" rel=File-List> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=FR style="tab-interval: 35.4pt" bgColor=white> <DIV class=Section1> <SPAN= class=StyleCourrierlectronique20>Isaac,   I use Protek and find it often does= the job but occasionally it will do nothing.  I can't= say as I've found it to seize up centers.  I'm using Joe= Goss' Goose Juice also these days and it seems to work= well.  What the difference between it and Protek is, I= don't know.    David I. <SPAN= class=StyleCourrierlectronique20>  <SPAN= class=StyleCourrierlectronique20>----- Original message= ----------------------------------------> From: Isaac sur= Noos <<A= href="mailto:oleg-i@noos.fr">oleg-i@noos.fr</A>> To:= College and University Technicians <<A= href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>> Received:= Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:59:15 +0100 Subject: RE: Touch= weight <SPAN= class=StyleCourrierlectronique20> In my experience Protek CLP make some bushings very= sluggish or even blocking after some= time.<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>Have no correlation between the kind= of bushings (Renner most probably ) that produce these results= on a regular basis.<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>The lists being mostly driven by US= techs and Protek being an Us product widely used, nobody seem to= answer to these questions most probably because of the political= correct attitude on the lists (is not it guys= ?)<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>So let me say that is how I understand= your silence on that matter (strange as you’re generally willing= to talk on any product/process= used)<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>Happy Christmas to= all.<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>Isaac= OLEG<o:p></o:p> <FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> <o:p></o:p> <SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">-----Message= d'origine----- De : caut-bounces@pt<FONT= face=Tahoma color=black size=2>g.org= [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De la part de Wimblees@aol.com <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Envoyé : vendredi 19= décembre 2003 16:11 À : caut@ptg.org <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Objet : Re: Touch= weight <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p> <SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">In a message dated 12/19/03= 9:04:06 AM Central Standard Time, fssturm@unm.edu= writes:<SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-color-alt:= windowtext"><o:p></o:p> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm;= BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm;= BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM:= medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;= PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium= none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM:= medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt:= auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt:= 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The Steinway "Permafree II"= action centers are impregnated with a teflon solution, which= lubricates and provides additional firmness. We had quite a= bit of discussion of this over the past couple months, with= respect to firmness versus friction.     No= other manufacturer uses this method. Most others are pure,= "unadulterated" felt, some have graphite applied to one= surface. All others will respond to lubrication with Protek,= and/or to shrinking/sizing with alcohol/water. Steinway will= not respond to either, due to that impregnation with teflon.= Pure methanol, a controlled substance, is available (at= least in colder climes) as gas line "de-freezer." Eric= Schandall says he thinks ethanol will work as= well. Regards, Fred Sturm<o:p></o:p></DIV> <SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">When I was at Steinway last= summer, I could have sworn Eric told us to use Protek on the= bushings. I will see if I can find methanol here in "warm and= sunny" Alabama. <o:p></o:p> <SPAN= lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <FONT= face=Arial color=black size=2><o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wim= <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;= mso-color-alt:= windowtext"><o:p></o:p></DIV></BODY></HTML>