<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4DF52.2C027F50"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in' id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial = id="role_document"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There exists so = called “pre-banned” ivory.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Ivory that was = procured before the ban was in place. <span = style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>This ivory carries some type of certification that it is non-contraband = material. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>There are various individuals = around the country who offer it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>David Love<br> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy><span = style='font-size: = 10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>davidlovepianos@comcast.net</span></f= ont></st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'> = </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On = Behalf Of </span></b>Wimblees@aol.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December = 11, 2004 7:04 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> caut@ptg.org<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] New = Ivory ethical questions</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 12/10/2004 7:44:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, = jlolson@cal.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I recently became aware that new ivory is back on the market -- supposedly = <br> legal -- again.  Does anyone here have any knowledge of the source = of this <br> ivory, or thoughts on the ethical questions (assuming some of the ivory = <br> might be harvested from elephants, which I personally wouldn't want to = be a <br> part of).<br> <br> This came up in conjunction with a Steinway rebuild project, where the = <br> customer requested new ivories, and pointed out that they are now = available <br> legally (in a limited way, apparently, according to my online = searches).<br> <br> Any thoughts?<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> Jeff <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jeff<o:p></o:p><= /span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p= ></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>From what I have been told, and I might be mistaken, is that it is still illegal to import ivory.  There are some piano = technicians who have gone to the trouble of removing ivories from older pianos, and reconditioning them to look like new. There are also a lot of older = pianos that still have ivory keytops, and the whole piano is restored, with new = parts and a new finish, but with the original ivories still in tact. = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p= ></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Wim = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p= ></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = color=black face=Arial FAMILY=SANSSERIF PTSIZE=10><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:black'>Willem Blees, RPT<br> Piano Technician<br> School of Music<br> University of Alabama<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>