<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While I understand the question = regarding antique value, in a case (pun intended?) like this, it would be a valuation = placed by perhaps an auction house, who would not be concerned necessarily whether = the instrument played or not, but simply that it was all original.  A = buyer would be either someone who collects for the same reason, and is also = concerned mostly with originality over playability, or someone seriously wanting = to play as well as admire.  For this person, an updated action would be the = only realistic choice, and the results of a successful job (a nicely = playing instrument with no change in special external appearance) would most = likely far outweigh the "original parts" issue as a place from which to give the instrument's ultimate value.  Two different markets and = mentalities-- separating them from each other is useful.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my HO.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greg</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Greg Granoff   RPT<BR>Humboldt State University</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=okeyes@uidaho.edu href="mailto:okeyes@uidaho.edu">Otto = Keyes</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 17, 2003 = 9:59 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Experts] Kranich = and Bach grand actions</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Didn't know there was an "antique = value" on Chronic & Barf's.......No, re-reading the original message, I see = the art case.  However, art case or no, K&B's in pristine = condition were never the shining star of their particular corner of the piano = universe.  I've always found them matchless.  At least I, being a = non-smoker, was matchless when faced with the prospect of tuning one.....almost made = me take up smoking a time or two........</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Otto  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dgurnee@humboldt1.com = href="mailto:dgurnee@humboldt1.com">Daniel Gurnee</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 17, = 2003 9:13 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Experts] = Kranich and Bach grand actions</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>The owner may want to know the effect of the = replacing of original parts on the antique value.<BR><BR>Dan Gurnee, RPT = <BR><BR><BR>on 11/17/03 7:27 AM, <A href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A> at <A href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A> = wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:20:50 AM Pacific = Standard Time, <A href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</A> = writes:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><B>Edward<BR></B></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><B><FONT color=#000040><FONT face="Times New = Roman">         Although this piano is an odd ball I've worked on a few that = sound?look/like this one. I don't think it impossible to make a new action for this = piano & if it's that pretty it might be worth it. I think it would be a = fun challenge & not all that diificult. Some new action brakets to = lay out new rails on. Drill for the scale. Calculate acton key ratios. = This could be done for a price. I'd like to hear others weigh in on this for = your sake.<BR> Dale Erwin<BR> Erwin Piano Restorations<BR> Modesto, Ca<BR>  209-577-8397<BR></FONT></FONT></B><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2><FONT = face=Arial><BR>    So now the point, this customer has money and we are willing to = rebuild the existing action or.... is there someone out there who could = build a new action with conventional whippens, action brackets,etc to = replace the old action. I understand this is nearly an impossible task but = perhaps there is someone who could do such a thing.<BR>I look forward to = your = responces.<BR><BR>         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;          Thank = You,<BR>          &nbsp= ;            =             &= nbsp;         Edward Mastin, RPT<BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>