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size=2>The
school piano I service (from 2 times/year to 3 or 4 tunings =
depending of
the place/instrument, plus other minor adjustments), are regularly =
pitched 438
Hz in winter for December and January, then they come back to 440 42 in =
the
following months. Apart of performance instruments, I don't care anymore =
to
maintain a pitch then, as it will be more near to 445 when in the summer =
days,
and I float the pitch, leaving no more than 6 hz low, but I bring all =
these
people back to 442 (standard pitch there) as soon as the spring tunings =
are
done.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166065718-08022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>That
gives me 2 passes tuning more often than not but I can count on a low =
but stable
instrument in the winter generally (sure extreme bass and treble are =
less moving
but it is ok, as long as the tuning is not too much stretched in the =
extremes,
the instruments goes from an under-stretched tuning in winter to a low =
stretch
tuning the remaining.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166065718-08022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Some
tune always in pure fifths (high stretch) and that leave more margin, =
but for
some reason I am not found of that tone when it moves width seasonal
changes...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166065718-08022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Best
Regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166065718-08022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166065718-08022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Isaac
OLEG.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Isaac OLEG<BR><BR>Entertain et réparation de
pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur
SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 01 47 18 06 =
90<BR>cell:
06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> =
caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Lance
Lafargue<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> samedi 8 février 2003
15:38<BR><B>À :</B> 'College and University
Technicians'<BR><B>Objet :</B> RE: pitch =
raise<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=010262514-08022003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree w/you Otto. I got calls 3 weeks ago from frantic people =
(when it
was VERY cold, RH %30's) and now it has warmed up a bit (RH 50%) and =
the
pianos are only 2-4 cents flat and the customers say it improved a lot =
over
the 3 weeks. I have several customers with Dampp-Chaser =
dehumidifiers
(w/o the humidifiers) and the pianos only go way out if it gets very
cold/dry(way below 42%), which is rare here. I have been tuning =
pianos
about 4 cts flat here if already flat because of our high RH most of =
the
year. I think the consensus has been to hover them around 440
anticipating the swing. 16cts flat is a lot, though, so either =
way, the
piano will probably be out in the spring. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=010262514-08022003>
<P><FONT size=2>Lance Lafargue, RPT<BR>Mandeville, LA<BR>New Orleans =
Chapter,
PTG<BR>lancelafargue@bellsouth.net<BR>985.72P.IANO</FONT> =
</P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Otto =
Keyes<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> College and =
University
Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: pitch raise<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Not to open a can of worms on this =
list again,
but the weather you have recently had has been unusual for your neck =
of the
woods. Which is to say that it will probably revert to normal
soon. If you measure the average pitch across the piano, you =
will
probably find it is much closer than -16 cents. Particularly =
in the
practice rooms, and under the abnormal conditions you've been =
experiencing,
I'd let the pitch float just a bit. Otherwise, 2-4 weeks down =
the road
when "normal" temp/humidity levels return, you'll be in the same =
boat on the
other side of the scale. Everybody will be howling for =
tunings, no
budget will be left, the admin. will not be happy, & you may end =
up
being the fall guy. Studio & concert instruments are =
another
story. I'd talk to the dean, piano faculty, whoever seems to =
be most
level-headed of the powers that be, explain the situation & make =
them
part of the decision. If they own the decision, they'll =
be much
more likely to live with it in contentment, or at least not take it =
out on
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Otto Keyes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>piano tech - U of =
Idaho</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=hullfam5@yahoo.com =
href="mailto:hullfam5@yahoo.com">Caroline
Hull</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org =
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 04, =
2003
10:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> pitch raise</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P>At the university where I provide service for fee work, I have =
just
started my round of tunings for the upcoming second =
semester. I am
finding the pitch has dropped an unusual amount since the last
tuning. For all but the recital hall pianos, the school asks =
me to
tune once at the beginning of the first semester and again at the
beginning of the second. The pitch on many of them so =
far has
been close to -16 cents. (I think the real cold weather we =
had
recently may be the culprit, with heating units running more and =
drying
things out more.)</P>
<P>Of course this requires at least two full passes and will need =
a follow
up tuning (which may not be in the budget and therefore may not
happen). I always do two passes anyway even for just a few =
cents
pitch change but this seems more extreme. How do other =
service
for fee techs handle the charges on pitch raise situations like
this. For my private customers I charge an extra amount for =
pitch
raises of this nature. </P>
<P>Bob Hull, RPT</P>
<P>Technician for Union University</P>
<P>Jackson, TN </P>
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