<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>No dental  in= our plan but visual is included...</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original message= ----------------------------------------><BR>From: Mike= Hoffman <<A= href="mailto:mthoffman@chartermi.net">mthoffman@chartermi.net</A= >><BR>To: College and University Technicians <<A= href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received:= Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:30:45 -0400<BR>Subject: OT (sorry) Re:= Michigan State U. Position still open</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Yes, and this is one= of the "economical" plans in our area through the Chamber of= Commerce (Blue Cross/ Shield).  After returning from the= Nashville convention, we opened the latest notice inforning us= of a 22 per cent increase  which is "in line with other= providers".  No dental or vision coverage included,= BTW.   </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike Hoffman, RPT</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;= MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:= 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----= </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:= black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net= href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org= href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 04,= 2004 9:19 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Michigan State= U. Position still open</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>$1300 a= month.   Yikes.   I'm 54 and paying $655 for= the 3 of us, 1 child.   </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original message= ----------------------------------------><BR>From: Mike= Hoffman <<A= href="mailto:mthoffman@chartermi.net">mthoffman@chartermi.net</A= >><BR>To: College and University Technicians <<A= href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received:= Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:08:42 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: Michigan State U.= Position still open</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Greetings listees= from a confirmed lurker,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've got to respectfully disagree= about the discussion of the low salary offer at MSU.  If my= health insurance premiums (self-employed, two people, no kids)= of $1,300 dollars per month were paid by MSU, AND they= contributed towards my retirement, AND they gave me paid= vacations AND they paid for professional development seminars= AND they provided affordable educational opportunities for my= wife and me, I would consider myself very fortunate,= indeed.  The grass is always greener somewhere, but I think= there is a bigger picture to consider.  Yes, piano= technicians should have higher incomes; but factor those state= benefits into the pot and you'll have a different picture. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike Hoffman, RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984254416-04082004><FONT= color=#000080></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original= Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A= href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>= [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff= Tanner<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:42= AM<BR><B>To:</B> College and University= Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Michigan State U. Position= still open<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;= MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:= 0px"> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;= BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Hi= Scott,<BR>Perhaps this is the reason they're not getting a whole= lot of response:<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman>Pay= Range: $17.31/hr Minimum to $21.64/hr Progression= Maximum<BR>Clerical/Technical, Grade 12. The position is being= advertised at minimum salary.<BR><BR>$17.31/hr X 40 hrs/week X= 52 weeks/yr = $36,004.80/yr<BR><BR>$21.64/hr X 40 hrs/week X 52= weeks/yr = $45,011.20yr<BR><BR><?/fontfamily>Jeff<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial= size=2></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>