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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN =
class=330094520-17042003>Hello
Vincent,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=330094520-17042003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
asked around me, nobody tells me that he uses oil (Ballistol or such) on =
leather
bushings, neither in Bechstein factory or elsewhere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I was
told on the contrary that the leather needs less side play than the =
cloth, but
that when it takes a slight amount of play it will be more noisy
soon.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>My
main concern is using it on the front key bushings, I don't recall =
having seen
that done on any instrument, I guess the friction may be
high.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I also
have been highly praised the good quality clothes with nylon (or ?) =
inside that
comes from Japan, as to be a material of choice for bushing work (info =
from a
friend, tech for the Paris school of music, he does 40 key =
bushings
set/year approximatively)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>By the
way he tells me to use some acid oxalic if precedent bushings have been =
glued
with a hard white glue, a pass with a damp rag and an iron using this =
acid
(don't smell the fumes) soften the glue fast he tells =
me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Another useful information is that cork grease is not =
acid so it
eventually is better than mutton tallow for leather/metal lubrication. I =
don't
use it on key pins nowadays, only Teflon spray, and a very good quality =
I have
from Sweden (McLube 125).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>He also tells me he made 3 complete keyboard sets with =
the
OLIAG/JAHN's key restoration tool (same kind than the Onesti tool but =
guided by
the cylindrical hole in the key) and he have a perfect font to back =
placement
and centering. But he made himself the wood washers, the ones sold =
originally
with the tool are totally useless (too soft =
wood).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Greetings</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>Entretien et réparation de pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 =
rue de
Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 =
98<BR>fax :
033 01 47 18 06 90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> Vincent E. =
Mrykalo
[mailto:mrykalve@potsdam.edu]<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 17 avril =
2003
15:43<BR><B>À :</B> oleg-i@wanadoo.fr; College and University
Technicians<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: Questions about key
bushings.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Isaac,</DIV>
<DIV>Do you use Balastol on the renner leather? They do =
recommend that,
as that may help the noise problem. The one thing about leather =
is that
they need to be eased a little more drastically than felt, so you =
can't get as
snug a fit.</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>Dear
colleagues,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>I
have just seen the 20 instruments that are in a little school I will =
work
for next year.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>These
instruments are 30 to10 years old. Since 3 years, a lot of work have =
been
done on almost all instruments, so many have been repined, new =
strings on
some, actions refurbishing, new key bushings.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>The
problem lies on these last, all the key bushing jobs are showing a =
lot of
side play, and even front to back play in some case. I was wandering =
how an
other while relatively decent (but not too expensive !) repair job =
could
turn in a so inefficient result. May be the bushing cloth used was =
very
poor, but, as even the one which are less worn are noisy, I suspect =
that
white glue or Titebond have been used for the gluing, causing the =
hardness
of the felts and the fast worn out.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>I
consider using leather, for the schools now, I made a few sets on =
the
balance mortise, and find the job to be not very different. Indeed =
the
leather (Renner) is a bit more noisy, but I prefer that to have to =
sell
bushing work every 4 years.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>My
question was about using leather in the front mortise, and if every =
kind of
key pin will accept the leather bushing. For instance brass key pins =
may be
will be worn out by the leather more than by the felt, so the play =
will be
there , finally.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>Is
not leather in the front bushing really to hard and noisy under the =
fingers
?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>I've
heard that some of you use kangaroo leather , where is it sold ? any =
feedback ?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>I was
pleased with the 2 sizes of the Renner bushing, on the Bechstein and =
the
Bšsendorfer I made I did not thin the leather it was very accurate =
ti begin
with (and I did not use any oil on it, as someone wrote once, too =
afraid to
have dirt and may be squeaks with this method).</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>Thanks in advance</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>Good
Easter day to all, Pessah for some !</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=-1>Isaac
OLEG</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1>Isaac =
OLEG<BR><BR>Entretien et
rŽparation de pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de =
Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY
sur SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 01 47 =
18 06
90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77</FONT><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma size=-1>-----Message
d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Wolfley, Eric
(WOLFLEEL)<BR><B>EnvoyŽ :</B> mercredi 16 avril 2003
18:01<BR><B>Ë :</B> 'College and University
Technicians'<BR><B>Objet :</B> RE: Bass string =
fest</FONT><BR><FONT
face=Tahoma size=-1></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=-1>I just =
checked·weâve
replaced 16 bass strings since school started at the end of =
Sept· not too
bad, considering. Most of this breakage is in the piano major =
rooms where
the pianos do get pounded on. Obviously I donât place an order =
with Mapes
every week, though I check.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000
size=-1>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Eric
Wolfley</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Head Piano
Technician</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Cincinnati
College-Conservatory of Music</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>University of
Cincinnati</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000
size=-1>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
size=-1></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1><B>From:</B>
Wimblees@aol.com [mailto:Wimblees@aol.com]</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bass string =
fest</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Times New =
Roman"></FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=-1>In a =
message dated
4/16/03 10:20:10 AM Central Daylight Time, WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU
writes:<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=-1>I do a pass =
through the
practice rooms approx.<BR>once a week and place an order with
Mapes.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 =
size=-1><BR><BR>This is
interesting. I've been here at UA for almost 2 years, and I have =
had two
bass strings break. Either you guys have harder players, or I'm =
extremely
lucky. How many bass strings to some of you replace per
week/year?<BR><BR>Wim</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>--
</PRE></X-SIGSEP>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="New York" color=#0000ff>Vince Mrykalo<I> =
RPT
MPT</I></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Arial Black" color=#0000ff>Senior Piano
Technician</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="New York" color=#0000ff size=+1><B>Crane =
School of
Music</B></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>