<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Jeff-</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">For about 2 years I've been finishing most tunings</FONT> with a very light spritz of rubbing alcohol with about 1/32 of fabric softener and a very light pass over the hammers with a brass brush.  I emphasize -VERY LIGHT- in both cases.  More recently I've stopped adding the fabric softener, and can't hear any difference in the result.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have wondered if the fabric softener smell is better customer relations than pure rubbing alcohol.  A few drops would do that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Perhaps a pounding test would show the fabric softener voicing lasts longer?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The formulas using fabric softener always used rubbing alcohol as the carrier. (A few years ago it was suggested to apply it very heavily to the shoulders, like hammer hardener. It's a fast way to ruin hammers; don't do it unless you are ready to replace the hammers if they come unglued from the moulding.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My feeling at this time is that the water in the rubbing alcohol is the effective agent.  The alcohol carries it a little deeper into the felt, and the dilution makes sure that it is a very small amount of water.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It also feels good on a bald head after a difficult tuning.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ed Sutton</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jlolson@cal.net href="mailto:jlolson@cal.net">Jeff Olson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 5/21/2005 7:27:54 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Schimmel attacked by fabric softener</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV>The interesting question here to me is the effectiveness of fabric softener as a voicing tool.  Is it possible that it could be effective, if used intelligently, minus all the steaming, burning, etc.?  What is the active ingredient in fabric softener, anyway (I must confess I've never used the stuff; I like my clothes rough and macho, fabricly speaking;-).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jeffo</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=HepplerA@aol.com href="mailto:HepplerA@aol.com">HepplerA@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 20, 2005 7:43 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Schimmel attacked by fabric softener</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>One quick question for you more experienced techs out there. . . <DIV>    I have a 7' Schimmel on consignment in the store I work for that needs some radical changes in the voicing.  To the request of the previous owner, the bass and upper treble sections have been voiced down considerably.  Unfortunately, the tooner used fabric softener as well as excessive steam, as I'm guessing from the shrinkage.  I have just spent a couple weeks with Boesendorfer in one-on-one voicing training, so I'm comfortable with most voicing jobs, but this is nasty.  The top 1/4" or so is as soft as gym socks, it smells like Downy, and there's even a few scorch marks in the bass.  Is there any point in trying to save this set of hammers, or should I save myself the agony and just replace them?  O.K., now, control your grimaces. :)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Elizabeth Heppler, R.P.T.</DIV> <DIV>Montana State University - Bozeman</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>