<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4289C.F677EBC0" = rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="time" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="date" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple = link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV>Lance-</DIV> <DIV>I found the instruction sheet for = this.  I'm surprised to see that Ken recommends using pins two sizes larger than = the original pins;</DIV> <DIV>I had thought one of the reasons for = the epoxy treatment was to allow re-use of original pins in historic instruments.</DIV> <DIV>Ah, well....back to the wood = shop.</DIV> <DIV>Ed</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=llafargue@charter.net href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net">llafargue</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">'College and University Technicians'</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 = 8:06 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: RE: Value of an old = steinway vertical</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> Yes, Ken = taught me this and it’s been so long since I’ve done it I can’t remember = details on pin sizes, etc.  I usually = make notes, keep papers and file away for the next time I do the job.  I have been replacing blocks = of late.  The Epotek = handout gives pin/drill bit info (from Ken).  The pins feel great with this = method if drilled correctly.  I = had a baby Chickering with a double flange on the plate and an owner with little = money.  That was a perfect = scenario, and uprights, too.  My guess = is you won’t go from #5’s to <o:p></o:p> # 1’s = though.    There are many pianos = out there with epoxy, including some in the Smithsonian Ken did and I’m not = sure how they are all doing, but I just tuned the Chickering about three months = ago and it was great.  The ones = I did that I still see are all fine.  = I did have one old upright early on that had inconsistency in the treble = pins because as I drilled them out I was running into harder wood deep in = the holes and it caused some vibration in the bit/inconsistent hole sizes.  I think it’s a great = technique to have when needed.   <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <st1:PersonName>Lance Lafargue</st1:PersonName>, = RPT<o:p></o:p> LAFARGUE PIANOS<o:p></o:p> New Orleans = Chapter, PTG<o:p></o:p> 985.72P.IANO<o:p></o:p> <st1:PersonName>llafargue@charter.net</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ed = Sutton Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 = 11:06 AM To: College and = University Technicians Subject: Re: Value of an old steinway vertical <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Hi, Lance-<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> I have a paper Ken = Eschete wrote on something like this.  Is that the method you use?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> When you do this, do you = repin with the same size pins, or is it possible to go to a smaller size?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> A friend of mine has an = old Bechstein with open face pinblock which has been restrung with #5 = pins.  I would like to go back to #1 pins in this piano.<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Does this method give a = smooth tuning result...and how long do you suppose it lasts?<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> If I think of any more = questions, I'll let you know!<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Thanks!<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV>  <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Ed<o:p></o:p></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> From: <A title=llafargue@charter.net href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net">llafargue</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> To: <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">'College and = University Technicians'</A> <o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Sent: <st1:date Year="2004" Day="21" Month="4">Wednesday, April 21, 2004</st1:date> = <st1:time Minute="4" Hour="9">9:04 AM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> Subject: RE: Value of an old steinway vertical<o:p></o:p></DIV> <DIV> <o:p> </o:p></DIV> I have 2 = Steinway uprights (early 1900’s) and plan to inject water thin optical = epoxy (EPOTEK), redrill and restring.  I have done this on several uprights and grands where = replacing was not an option.  Works great.  Nice feel.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> Lance = Lafargue, RPT<o:p></o:p> LAFARGUE PIANOS<o:p></o:p> <st1:City><st1:place>New Orleans</st1:place></st1:City> Chapter, PTG<o:p></o:p> 985.72P.IANO<o:p></o:p> <A = href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net">llafargue@charter.net</A></F= ONT><o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE= ></BODY></HTML>