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PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=oleg-i@noos.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@noos.fr">Isaac sur = Noos</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Saturday, December 20, = 2003 5:59 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: RE: Touch weight</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> In my experience Protek CLP make some bushings very sluggish or even = blocking after some time.<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> Have no correlation between the kind of bushings (Renner most probably ) = that produce these results on a regular = basis.<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> The lists being mostly driven by US techs and Protek being an Us product = widely used, nobody seem to answer to these questions most probably because = of the political correct attitude on the lists (is not it guys ?)<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> So let me say that is how I understand your silence on that matter = (strange as you�re generally willing to talk on any product/process used)<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> Happy Christmas to all.<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> Isaac OLEG<o:p></o:p> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> -----Message d'origine----- De : caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De = la part de Wimblees@aol.com Envoy� : vendredi 19 = d�cembre 2003 16:11 � : caut@ptg.org Objet : Re: Touch weight <![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p> In a message dated 12/19/03 9:04:06 AM Central Standard Time, = fssturm@unm.edu writes:<o:p></o:p> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: blue = 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 36pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-border-left-alt: solid blue 1.5pt; = mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt">The Steinway "Permafree II" action centers are impregnated with a teflon solution, which lubricates and provides additional firmness. We = had quite a bit of discussion of this over the past couple months, with = respect to firmness versus friction.     No other manufacturer = uses this method. Most others are pure, "unadulterated" felt, some have = graphite applied to one surface. All others will respond to lubrication = with Protek, and/or to shrinking/sizing with alcohol/water. Steinway = will not respond to either, due to that impregnation with teflon. Pure = methanol, a controlled substance, is available (at least in colder climes) as = gas line "de-freezer." Eric Schandall says he thinks ethanol will work as well. Regards, Fred Sturm<o:p></o:p></DIV> When I was at Steinway last summer, I could have sworn Eric told us to use = Protek on the bushings. I will see if I can find methanol here in "warm and = sunny" Alabama. <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Wim <o:p></o:p></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML= >