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The primary subject of this thread has been the best method for matching
tunings in multiple piano situations. While interesting and thought
provoking, it does not quite relate directly to "Les Noces"
(The Wedding) . According to Grove's:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>The original version of The
Wedding, essentially completed in 1917, was scored for a large mixed band
of about 40, with only a small string group, much wind, and a battery
of percussion and twangy plucked and struck
strings, including <i><u>cimbalom</u></i> (ds) (an instrument
Stravinsky became obsessed with after hearing and buying one in Geneva in
1915), harps, piano and harpsichord.</blockquote><br>
And:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>In February 1921 the Pleyel piano
company gave him a studio in their Paris factory in the rue Rochechouart,
and here he worked on the pianola part of The Wedding, for a time even
envisaging rewriting the entire score for four
pianolas.</blockquote><br>
And:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Meanwhile, The Wedding had itself
at last reached the stage in Paris in May 1923 in a form which also
seemed curiously to co-opt this most ethnically Russian of all his works
into a neo-classical sound-world, with its four pianos (actually two
double pianos in the first production)...</blockquote><br>
I guess I would make two points:<br><br>
1) The original orchestration, including cimbalom, suggests to me that he
did not want pianos perfectly in tune<br><br>
2) Given the date of composition and the likelihood of numerous
performances (recordings?) with 4 pianos before ETD, there would have
been comparable aural solutions to the problem. <br><br>
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Wed, 6 Mar 2002 <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I agree with the majority of
replies so far. I do not tune pianos together. I tune each
piano to it's own stretch. Of course they will not be exactly the
same stretch numbers but they will be very close and sound very good
together. In my opinion, the very minor differences will give each
instrument it's own voice, so to speak. Imagine trying to get four
singers to sound exactly the same. I believe that the differences
in characters also give the music a more three dimensional sound as
well. In other words, they don't sound like one big piano but four
separate voices, each with their own particular character. Imagine
how sterile it would sound if you got the four singers to sound exactly
the same.<br>
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-Christopher D. Purdy R.P.T.</blockquote><br>
During the Christmas season, WKCR in New York City (Columbia University
station) had a Bach Festival. One recording they played was of a
number of chorales, performed with a single soloist on each
part. It was thoroughly unfulfilling. <br><br>
At 02:01 PM 03/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Eric
<br><br>
And, again, I forgot who said it, but I agree that perhaps Stravinsky
wanted all four of the pianos to sound slightly different, to give them
each their own character. <br><br>
Wim </font></blockquote><br><br>
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Under these circumstances, I would probably go with David Millers's
suggestions:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2> Just
do a good, stable tuning and get a cup of
coffee!</font></blockquote><br><br>
For unparalleled fun though, next time someone should try one tuner per
piano, maybe even with a conductor!<br><br>
<br>
David Skolnik<br>
Columbia University, NY<br><br>
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