<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-885= 9-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; BORDER-T= OP-STYLE: none; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-LE= FT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#= ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <P><BR>Believe me...you WILL be going for a lighter kit as the years go= by.   When my knuckles started dragging on the floor, I knew= it was time...</P> <P>You mentioned you use an abbreviated kit for long walking distances.= ..that seems like the time for more fully loaded kit, rather than walk = back to the car...?</P> <P>I would interested in a heavier kit only if it had wheels...I don't = mind the walk to the car...what 30 feet?   </P> <P><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, California<BR><BR><BR><BR></P> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5p= x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: "Jeff Olson" <JLOLSON@CAL.NET><BR>To: "Colleg= e and University Technicians" <CAUT@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 1/8/2006 4:48= :02 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case?<BR><BR> <DIV align=left>I don't mind a heavier case -- mine weighs 33 lbs. "f= ully loaded" with tools -- for carrying the few yards into a house (I g= et too impatient having to journey to the car two or three more times f= or needed tools if I split up my tool collection along the lines Wim do= es).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For university or apartment work, when I need to walk a relatively= long ways, I use an abbreviated tool bag that holds mostly tuning wren= ches, a couple screwdrivers, etc., that weighs only a few pounds. = I mean, I'm macho, but not (completely) nuts.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I found your tool case, Ron, rather appealing; never liked the rol= l-up types -- tools tended to scatter/fall upon rolling out, and someti= mes slither out upon rolling up, in the ones I've tried.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>J0</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; M= ARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"= ><B>From:</B> <A title=englepiano@juno.com href="mailto:englepiano@= juno.com">Ronald E Engle</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href= ="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 08, 2006 4= :12 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] The Ideal To= ol Case?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 si= ze=2> <DIV>My odyssey for the perfect case continues also.  I liked= the Genck case which I used for 10 or so years.  After that wore = out I bought one of the "close out" Genck's.  I could not use it b= ecause it was clumsy and you have to fill it to make it work and it bec= ame to heavy for me.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I agree with Wim's philosophy and I would add an element of m= y own.  Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.  Why carry around tools= you seldom use?  However I have not reached the tuning hammer and= mutes only, approach yet. Presently I am using a laptop comp= uter carrying case I had laying around which happens to be identical to= ones for sale at Office Max or any office supply store.  The pouc= hes, slots, flapped side pocket, movable divider all just happen t= o work out perfectly for me.  The Modification I did make is to bo= rrow a pallet from the new Genck which has velcro hooks on the bottom e= dge.  It lays right in the case where the computer use to and is p= ermanently positioned so the top edge of the pallet lays on the top edg= e of the case, so it is slanted for easy removal of tools, it is hinged= at the bottom because of the velco and items can be kept underneath. T= he movable divider is beside the pallet giving space for&nbsp= ;a few small tools that are placed in there loose.  At the space a= t the bottom of the pallet I place my tuning hammer and a few= necessities that are used at every tuning.  This kit is light, ev= erything is easily accessible, the large flapped side space (usually em= pty) is used for temporary tools or supplies I know I might need f= or the job, sometimes umbrella, hat, ETD if you use one. It is sof= t so I don't worry about laying it on furniture and worse yet banging i= t against furniture ( I am clumsy).  It has a removable shoulder s= trap which can be doubled to hold the case lid in upright position.</DI= V> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everyone has to work out what's best for them.  I am very hap= py with this arrangement.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ron Engle</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:40:39 EST <A href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com= ">Wimblees@aol.com</A> writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; B= ORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV>Jeff</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use a tool roll, as sold by the piano supply stores, to hold my = basic tuning and regulating tools, pliers, etc. I have another small ba= g for my voicing tools. These is carry in one of the briefcases sold at= the home office, which has the PTG logo on it. The briefcase is l= eather, and can be carried by a shoulder strap. It has room for lots of= extra goodies, including paper work, glue, etc. I like the should= er strap, as it takes the weight off my arms and hands. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As was mentioned, there is no such a thing as a perfect case. What= you want is something that will hold the basic things you need most of= the time that will get you thought a basic tuning, voicing, and r= egulation.  The rest you should keep in a variety of carrying= cases and tool boxes in your car. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wim </DIV></FONT> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>