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Isaac,<br>
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Yes, the slight uncoupling increases the sustain among other things. The
pedals function as normal. <br>
<br>
At this point all installations are 3 pins per string. The treble sections
are actually more stable.<br>
<br>
I will be interested to see your comments about the French designs. <br>
<br>
Tim Coates<br>
Wapin Company LLP<br>
<br>
Isaac OLEG wrote:<br>
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cite="midMABBLJGEBJDPJHIACJBAIEDLDNAA.oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">
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<div><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Tim,</font></span></div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">thanks for your mail, I will see this system I
heard about next week, and send some comments. </font></span></div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">So it is that slight uncoupling effect that is
the base of the process ? Is the left pedal working the same on these pianos
?</font></span></div>
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class="421364123-07122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I understand that when a board is tired, it is
easier to gain some sustain, that having the board alive again (I mean responsive,
multi layered, etc...)</font></span></div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I'll follow your idea and have a look at the wapin
site again.</font></span></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span
class="421364123-07122002">Are all the systems 3 pin systems (I thought
of eventual problems of string riding in the treble because of the front
vertical pin) ?</span></font></font></font></div>
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class="421364123-07122002"></span></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span
class="421364123-07122002"></span><span class="421364123-07122002">Thanks,
and best regards</span></font></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span
class="421364123-07122002"></span></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span
class="421364123-07122002">Till next time</span></font></font></font></div>
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class="421364123-07122002"></span></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span
class="421364123-07122002">Isaac OLEG</span></font></font></font></div>
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size="2"><span class="421364123-07122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff"> </font></span></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Tahoma"><font size="2"><span
class="421364123-07122002"> </span><strong>Envoyé :</strong> samedi 7 décembre
2002 03:18<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">oleg-i@wanadoo.fr</a>; CAUT<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: soundboard springs<br>
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style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0,0,255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">Isaac,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your comments. The Wapin Bridge does not work because of
three bridge pins. It is a common mistake. It is the front pin that
causes the slight uncoupling of the string to the bridge. The middle
pin does nothing but trap.<br>
<br>
Perhaps you would like to revisit Wapin. Europe seems to be looking for
something like Wapin. There have been European rebuilders inquiring about
Wapin. I don't have much experience with European pianos, but I understand
they have a very short sustain.<br>
<br>
A recently certified US Wapin Installer used a 6' Grotian as his first
install. It sits right beside a rebuilt SSB, also rebuilt. He says "the
6' Grotian gives the SSB a run for the money, except in the very low
bass". Which is to be expected. A previously short sustain 6' piano
now competing against a good 7' SSB? <br>
<br>
Tim Coates<br>
Wapin Company LLP<br>
<br>
Isaac OLEG wrote:<br>
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type="cite">
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<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Tim,</font></span></div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I had some inquiries about the Wapin a few
years ago, but did not spend much time on that after that.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">It seems evident to me that if the Wapin (3
pins system ?) allow for a better bridge string transmission, even on
a tired board that will help a lot by avoiding the lack of efficient
pressure (DB) on the board.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I believe that the side pressure of the standard
pins is not helping the string enough under the impact of the hammer.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">I received some very good comments lately
, of the use of the Wapin setup in that case. I will see another setup
of the same kind soon (from a French designer).</font></span></div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"></span> </div>
<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Regards.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="069264922-06122002"><font face="Arial"
color="#0000ff" size="2">Isaac OLEG</font></span></div>
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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Message d'origine-----<br>
<b>De :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>]<b>De
la part de</b> Tim Coates<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 5 décembre 2002 13:13<br>
<b>À :</b> College and University Technicians<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: soundboard springs<br>
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Yes. I know there are many out there who refuse to believe it, but
Wapin has compensated for a dead soundboard many times. I've experienced
it several times. The board still needs to have crown and there needs
to be downbearing. <br>
<br>
I have considered installing the treble tension resonator on one piano.
It has Wapin on the Killer Octave and sounds great were it once was
dead. I can hear a slight difference in the entire treble
when the air gets dry, though. I think the resonator could help the
case and soundboard stay together better in that area. I've talked
with some people about the resonators: works for some, doesn't work
for others. The idea has been around for years. <br>
<br>
Tim Coates<br>
Wapin Company LLP <br>
<br>
Richard Brekne wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid3DEFD1CA.FED03368@grieg.uib.no" type="cite"><br>
Tim... are you claiming that the Wapin can compensate for a dead
soundboard ?
<p>just curious </p>
<p>RicB </p>
<p>"<font face="Arial"><font size="-1">On 12/4/2002 at 8:12 AM
Tim Coates wrote:</font></font> </p>
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style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0,0,0); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">Hi
Dave,
<p>I'm dead serious when I say this: you need to install
Wapin. It has never failed to fix this problem. There is
a pianist who drives from Dallas to Cedar Rapids, IA to record
because there is no Wapin SSD in Dallas. It's real. It
works. It's cost effective. </p>
<p>You don't have be worried about removing it because it didn't
work. </p>
<p>Tim Coates <br>
Wapin Company LLP</p>
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<p>-- <br>
Richard Brekne <br>
RPT, N.P.T.F. <br>
UiB, Bergen, Norway <br>
<a href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</a>
<br>
<a href="http://home.broadpark.no/%7Erbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</a>
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