<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman" text=#000000 = bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2>Dave,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>I would say,  = use Yamaha CFIIn S hammers and Yamaha shanks, why bother ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>Their felt is the = same that you can have on Renner's, and they even are not hard enough before some = playing six months or so. The weight will be exact, the wood molding thinner, and so = on...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>What pianists say = about Yamaha vs. Steinway, is that they can obtain a more strong sound without = saturation from a Steinway, so depending of  what they have to play the Yamaha = can be not stro</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>ng = enough.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>Yamaha actions are = more stable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>There are other = brands, too</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT size=2>Isaac = OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=449030018-20112002><FONT = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> David M. Porritt<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> lundi 18 novembre 2002 18:48<BR><B>À :</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> = Concert grands<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Until a couple of years ago we had 2 Steinway "D"s in our larger = recital hall.  One (1983) was wonderful, the other (1993) was somewhat = less than wonderful.  When it came time to trade one of them (i.e. a donor = was found) we didn't find any Steinway that was universally liked.  = We did find a Yamaha CFIIIS that was purchased.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Since the one we kept (1983) was my favorite piano in the world, = I fully expected to dislike the Yamaha.  I can't!</DIV> <DIV>My favorite now is which ever one I'm playing!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Steinway "faithful" can't imagine why we bought this un-Steinway.  They claim the Yamaha has a nice sound, but the = Steinway has "The Steinway Sound" whatever that is.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This morning I had a few extra minutes and both pianos were side = by side.  I played one, then the other.  I played 8 measures on = one, then the same 8 measures on the other.  A big chord on one, the = the same big chord on the other.  At this point I started to think that = the basic difference was the hammers.  The Steinway has Renner Blues, the = Yamaha has factory original Yamahas.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So my question:  Has anyone ever heard, worked on, or played = a CFIIIS with Renner hammers?  The hammers that are on there are = too new to replace at this point, but someday they'll need to go and I'd love to = have someone else's experience on this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>dave</DIV><PRE>_____________________________ David M. Porritt dporritt@mail.smu.edu Meadows School of the Arts Southern Methodist University Dallas, TX 75275 _____________________________</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>