<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oops-</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I meant to write backcheck, not = damper....that happens more and more these days.  Anyway, it was a great class = about backchecks.  And the action geometry is also very good.  = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You could maybe set up a bunch of = backcheck problems that way.  And it would be cheaper to buy a Steinway = action model (naive thought, there).  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The thing about doing it with a full = action is that you wouldn't be able to see it...which is the way these darling problems = happen.  I guess you could throw a curtain over the action model.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hgreeley@stanford.edu = href="mailto:hgreeley@stanford.edu">Horace Greeley</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 02, = 2003 7:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: bobbling hammers, again</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>Hi, Ed,<BR><BR>At 06:36 PM 10/2/2003 -0400, you = wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial = size=2>Hello, Horace, where've you been?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Under a = rock....<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><BR><FONT = face=arial size=2>Richard Davenport's damper class is very, very good.  = It is mostly about installing new dampers = properly.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hmmm - the class I was thinking about was one for which he had built a = special action model with modified parts so that any number of variables could be achieved.  I think it was called: "What if?"...but, memory = fails.<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial = size=2>What I'm imagining is an action that is rigged to have as many of the subtle frustrations (such as Wim's backcheck problems) as could be fitted = into 88 keys.  The object would be to learn to diagnose quickly, mostly = by touch, without pulling the stack.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Richard's = model was only one or two keys (I think).  <BR><BR>I like the idea of a = full action, but wonder about the visibility of the = parts/relationships.<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial = size=2>If anyone has a Steinway action about to be ditched, I would undertake the rigging!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What? Throw away the Crown Jewel of = Perfection of piano manufacture?  Get thee behind me!  Block my hammer!<BR><BR>Still, the visual does have some degree of visceral appeal...<BR><BR>Horace<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><BR><FONT = face=arial size=2>Ed Sutton</FONT><BR> <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:hgreeley@stanford.edu">Horace = Greeley</A> <BR> <DD>To:</B> <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University = Technicians</A> <BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:19 AM<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> Re: bobbling hammers, again<BR><BR><BR> <DD>Ed,<BR><BR> <DD>Something on this order used to be a part of a class that = Richard Davenport was teaching a few years back.  Perhaps he is still = teaching it from time to time.<BR><BR> <DD>Horace<BR><BR><BR> <DD>At 05:28 PM 10/1/2003 -0400, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD><FONT face=arial size=2>If someone has a spare D or B = action, it would be a great model to create all the backcheck problems = we've been posting on this thread, then use in a demo class.  = </FONT><BR> <DD><BR>  <DD><FONT face=arial size=2>Ed S.</FONT> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From: <A = href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</A> <DD>To: <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A> <DD>Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:06 PM <DD>Subject: Re: bobbling hammers, again<BR><BR> <DD><FONT face=arial size=2>In a message dated 10/1/03 = 3:58:02 PM Central Daylight Time, <A href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A> writes:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD>Wim-<BR> <DD>Along with what Jeff is saying, check (feel) if the nap of = the buckskin is <DD>reversed, or if the backcheck head is slightly loose on = the wire.  Also check the <DD>bottom edge and corners of the hammer; just a slight touch = with a sandpaper file <DD>to remove a sharp corner might make it = work.</DD></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DD>I am going to look at the wire, to make sure it is tight in = the key. I will also look at the nap of the buckskin. I have already = sanded the bottom edge of the tail to remove the sharp edge. <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD>Are you making a laminated checklist of all these suggestions?   You could teach a <DD>class next year.   Or sell the list.  ;-)</DD></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <DD>I am saving all the suggestions for future references. I = don't know if I will have enough material to teach a full class, but maybe = a mini class. As with all educational material, the information will be = free for the asking. :)<BR> <DD>Wim <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD>Ed Sutton</DD></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>