<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma" = bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>The ban is an European Union = regulation.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ed440@mindspring.com = href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">Ed Sutton</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 23, 2005 = 11:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] Re: = magnets</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Richard-</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">No, neither of these is the Petrof system.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">The Petrof system works like a = wippen assist spring.  One magnet is in the wippen rail, under the wippen = body.  The other magnet is in the wippen body, in front of the wippen flange = and above the rail magnet.  It lifts the wippen like a wippen assist = spring, thereby reducing the need for weight in the key front.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Because of the lead ban in Germany. = Petrof is using this system to allow the use of brass weights in the key fronts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">International Brokers is offering = training and installation rights for the MBA.  The cost is very high, too high = to be practical in any but the most luxurious action rebuild.   = (Has anyone else noticed that the market for the most expensive pianos is = not with musicians, schools and orchestras, but with people who have nothing = better to do with their money than own the most expensive piano on the block?)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Don't forget Richard Brekne's magnet = system featured in the Journal about 2 years ago.  Richard has given his = system to public domain, so the cost will be just magnets and technician labor!!!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Ed Sutton</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=RADKINS@coe.edu href="mailto:RADKINS@coe.edu">Richard = Adkins</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/23/2005 11:00:11 AM = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] Re: = magnets</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV>There are two magnet systems by the same inventor. The = one</DIV> <DIV>you mentioned used in Petroff( evidenlty it is true) is = at:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A = href="http://home.hetnet.nl/~velo68/internlinks/MFRWEBVELOENG1ahtml.htm= ">http://home.hetnet.nl/~velo68/internlinks/MFRWEBVELOENG1ahtml.htm</A></= DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've seen at the PTG conventions magnets used in upright = action,</DIV> <DIV>and also, you might remember International Piano Brokers, = who</DIV> <DIV>had the Fazioli booth.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> They sell an adjustable Magnetic Balanced Action = from the same inventor.</DIV> <DIV>The magnets are in the keys, not the whippens, as you = describe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The NL site says it is available as a retrofit kit...I'd</DIV> <DIV>like to know if "we" technicians can install one or if</DIV> <DIV>we have to go to a specialist?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sofar I've not heard of anyone retrofitting either of = these systems to Steinway Ds. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It would have to improve on the Stanwood touchweight system and = be less costly to be</DIV> <DIV>viable, I think. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>see links for the MBA from the same inventor at:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A = href="http://home.hetnet.nl/~velo68/internlinks/MBAWEBVeloeng2004-1htm.= html">http://home.hetnet.nl/~velo68/internlinks/MBAWEBVeloeng2004-1htm.ht= ml</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A = href="http://www.internationalbrokersinc.com/content.cfm?Page=Mba">ht= tp://www.internationalbrokersinc.com/content.cfm?Page=Mba</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Richard Adkins</DIV> <DIV>Coe College</DIV> <DIV>Cedar Rapids, IA </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>