<html> Ed, Wim, et al,     This action has keyframe issues that would impact the decision to replace, necessitating a new frame altogether, I believe. Also, the hammers are sometimes very unique, with leather on the tails. I vote go original, as the replaced action would probably detract more from the value than it would add, once the costs are considered. Just my 26 centavos, Guy At 11:09 AM 11/17/2003 -0800, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>While I understand the question regarding antique value, in a case (pun intended?) like this, it would be a valuation placed by perhaps an auction house, who would not be concerned necessarily whether the instrument played or not, but simply that it was all original.  A buyer would be either someone who collects for the same reason, and is also concerned mostly with originality over playability, or someone seriously wanting to play as well as admire.  For this person, an updated action would be the only realistic choice, and the results of a successful job (a nicely playing instrument with no change in special external appearance) would most likely far outweigh the "original parts" issue as a place from which to give the instrument's ultimate value.  Two different markets and mentalities-- separating them from each other is useful. Just my HO. Greg Greg Granoff   RPT Humboldt State University <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:okeyes@uidaho.edu">Otto Keyes</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</a> <dd>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:59 AM <dd>Subject: Re: [Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions <dd>Didn't know there was an "antique value" on Chronic & Barf's.......No, re-reading the original message, I see the art case.  However, art case or no, K&B's in pristine condition were never the shining star of their particular corner of the piano universe.  I've always found them matchless.  At least I, being a non-smoker, was matchless when faced with the prospect of tuning one.....almost made me take up smoking a time or two........ <dd>  <dd>Otto  <dd>  <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:dgurnee@humboldt1.com">Daniel Gurnee</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</a> <dd>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:13 AM <dd>Subject: Re: [Experts] Kranich and Bach grand actions <dd>The owner may want to know the effect of the replacing of original parts on the antique value. <dd>Dan Gurnee, RPT <dd>on 11/17/03 7:27 AM, <a href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</a> at <a href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</a> wrote: <dd>In a message dated 11/17/2003 6:20:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, <a href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</a> writes: <dd>Edward </dl>         Although this piano is an odd ball I've worked on a few that sound?look/like this one. I don't think it impossible to make a new action for this piano & if it's that pretty it might be worth it. I think it would be a fun challenge & not all that diificult. Some new action brakets to lay out new rails on. Drill for the scale. Calculate acton key ratios. This could be done for a price. I'd like to hear others weigh in on this for your sake.  Dale Erwin  Erwin Piano Restorations  Modesto, Ca   209-577-8397 <dl> <dd>    So now the point, this customer has money and we are willing to rebuild the existing action or.... is there someone out there who could build a new action with conventional whippens, action brackets,etc to replace the old action. I understand this is nearly an impossible task but perhaps there is someone who could do such a thing. <dd>I look forward to your responces. <dd>                                Thank You, <dd>                                             Edward Mastin, RPT </dl> </blockquote></html>