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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isaac-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've used leather keybushings, and have =
found that
2 or 3 applications of ballistol are needed for free movement of the =
front
keybushing. This was not for noise, but due to performer's =
complaint
of too much friction. Balistol is promoted as a leather
preservative. I've found leather front keybushings in German =
pianos of the
late 19th century in remarkably good condition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The keypins, of course, were =
beautifully smooth and
polished.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed S.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oleg-i@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">Isaac =
OLEG</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=mrykalve@potsdam.edu
href="mailto:mrykalve@potsdam.edu">Vincent E. Mrykalo</A> ; <A
title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and =
University
Technicians</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, 2003 =
4:58
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Questions about =
key
bushings. - bushing material -tools</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=330094520-17042003>Hello Vincent,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=330094520-17042003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
asked around me, nobody tells me that he uses oil (Ballistol or such) =
on
leather bushings, neither in Bechstein factory or
elsewhere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
was told on the contrary that the leather needs less side play than =
the cloth,
but that when it takes a slight amount of play it will be more noisy
soon.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>My
main concern is using it on the front key bushings, I don't recall =
having seen
that done on any instrument, I guess the friction may be
high.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
also have been highly praised the good quality clothes with nylon (or =
?)
inside that comes from Japan, as to be a material of choice for =
bushing work
(info from a friend, tech for the Paris school of music, he does =
40 key
bushings set/year approximatively)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>By
the way he tells me to use some acid oxalic if precedent bushings have =
been
glued with a hard white glue, a pass with a damp rag and an iron using =
this
acid (don't smell the fumes) soften the glue fast he tells
me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Another useful information is that cork grease is not =
acid so it
eventually is better than mutton tallow for leather/metal lubrication. =
I don't
use it on key pins nowadays, only Teflon spray, and a very good =
quality I have
from Sweden (McLube 125).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff>He also tells me he made 3 complete keyboard sets with =
the
OLIAG/JAHN's key restoration tool (same kind than the Onesti tool but =
guided
by the cylindrical hole in the key) and he have a perfect font to back =
placement and centering. But he made himself the wood washers, the =
ones sold
originally with the tool are totally useless (too soft
wood).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Greetings</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=330094520-17042003><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>Entretien et réparation de =
pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de
Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 =
98<BR>fax :
033 01 47 18 06 90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> Vincent E. =
Mrykalo
[mailto:mrykalve@potsdam.edu]<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 17 =
avril 2003
15:43<BR><B>À :</B> oleg-i@wanadoo.fr; College and University =
Technicians<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: Questions about key
bushings.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Isaac,</DIV>
<DIV>Do you use Balastol on the renner leather? They do =
recommend
that, as that may help the noise problem. The one thing about =
leather
is that they need to be eased a little more drastically than felt, =
so you
can't get as snug a fit.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>Dear colleagues,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>I
have just seen the 20 instruments that are in a little school I =
will work
for next year.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>These instruments are 30 to10 years old. Since 3 years, =
a lot of
work have been done on almost all instruments, so many have been =
repined,
new strings on some, actions refurbishing, new key
bushings.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>The
problem lies on these last, all the key bushing jobs are showing a =
lot of
side play, and even front to back play in some case. I was =
wandering how
an other while relatively decent (but not too expensive !) repair =
job
could turn in a so inefficient result. May be the bushing cloth =
used was
very poor, but, as even the one which are less worn are noisy, I =
suspect
that white glue or Titebond have been used for the gluing, causing =
the
hardness of the felts and the fast worn out.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>I
consider using leather, for the schools now, I made a few sets on =
the
balance mortise, and find the job to be not very different. Indeed =
the
leather (Renner) is a bit more noisy, but I prefer that to have to =
sell
bushing work every 4 years.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>My
question was about using leather in the front mortise, and if =
every kind
of key pin will accept the leather bushing. For instance brass key =
pins
may be will be worn out by the leather more than by the felt, so =
the play
will be there , finally.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>Is
not leather in the front bushing really to hard and noisy under =
the
fingers ?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>I've heard that some of you use kangaroo leather , where =
is it
sold ? any feedback ?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=-1>I
was pleased with the 2 sizes of the Renner bushing, on the =
Bechstein and
the Bšsendorfer I made I did not thin the leather it was very =
accurate ti
begin with (and I did not use any oil on it, as someone wrote =
once, too
afraid to have dirt and may be squeaks with this
method).</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>Thanks in advance</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>Good Easter day to all, Pessah for some =
!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=-1>Isaac OLEG</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1>Isaac =
OLEG<BR><BR>Entretien
et rŽparation de pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de =
Choisy<BR>94400
VITRY sur SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 =
01 47
18 06 90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77</FONT><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma size=-1>-----Message
d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Wolfley, Eric
(WOLFLEEL)<BR><B>EnvoyŽ :</B> mercredi 16 avril 2003
18:01<BR><B>Ë :</B> 'College and University
Technicians'<BR><B>Objet :</B> RE: Bass string =
fest</FONT><BR><FONT
face=Tahoma size=-1></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=-1>I just =
checked·weâve
replaced 16 bass strings since school started at the end of =
Sept· not
too bad, considering. Most of this breakage is in the piano =
major rooms
where the pianos do get pounded on. Obviously I donât place an =
order
with Mapes every week, though I check.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000
size=-1>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Eric
Wolfley</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Head Piano
Technician</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>Cincinnati
College-Conservatory of Music</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 =
size=-1>University
of Cincinnati</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000
size=-1>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000080
size=-1></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1>-----Original
Message-----</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1><B>From:</B>
Wimblees@aol.com [mailto:Wimblees@aol.com]</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 =
size=-1><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bass string
fest</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Times New =
Roman"></FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=-1>In a =
message dated
4/16/03 10:20:10 AM Central Daylight Time, =
WOLFLEEL@UCMAIL.UC.EDU
writes:<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=-1>I do a =
pass through
the practice rooms approx.<BR>once a week and place an order =
with
Mapes.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 =
size=-1><BR><BR>This is
interesting. I've been here at UA for almost 2 years, and I have =
had two
bass strings break. Either you guys have harder players, or I'm
extremely lucky. How many bass strings to some of you replace =
per
week/year?<BR><BR>Wim</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>--
</PRE></X-SIGSEP>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="New York" color=#0000ff>Vince Mrykalo<I> =
RPT
MPT</I></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Arial Black" color=#0000ff>Senior Piano
Technician</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="New York" color=#0000ff =
size=+1><B>Crane School of
=
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