<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>David-</DIV> <DIV>One second at one inch = yikes!</DIV> <DIV>Two seconds at one inch = first degree burn</DIV> <DIV>Not as hot as a modified kettle, which can produce serious burns, but hotter than the Scunci, I think.</DIV> <DIV>It produces a drier steam than a kettle, with definate pressure.</DIV> <DIV>I use the short nozzle, have not tried the hose extension.</DIV> <DIV>For removing bushings installed with white glue, the relative dryness seems helpful.</DIV> <DIV>For thicker parts, such as wippen cushions, I brush on a mix of rubbing alcohol, vinegar and water before steaming.</DIV> <DIV>For swelling balance rail holes, a little extra water followed by steam speeds it up.</DIV> <DIV>And it is great for cleaning plates.  Piano plates, I mean.  Haven't tried it in the kitchen....yet.</DIV> <DIV>Ed</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidskolnik@optonline.net href="mailto:davidskolnik@optonline.net">David Skolnik</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=ed440@mindspring.com href="mailto:ed440@mindspring.com">ed440@mindspring.com</A>;<A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/26/2005 8:26:59 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Steamers again, wasRE: [CAUT] Pulley keys.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>Ed, others-<BR>I recently bought and subsequently returned a Scunci steamer.  It looked nice enough and had multiple attachments, however the actual temperature and control of what emerged were inadequate.  The "mist" it produced was mostly a function of the pressure created inside the vessel.  It did not feel hot, holding my hand little more than an inch away from the spout.  Also, the The claims made by this product regarding its sanitizing abilities (in home cleaning, not pianos) seemed rather far fetched.  So I'm wondering if you think there is anything about the Singer steamer you mentioned that I might find any different.  In fact, if anyone wouldn't mind posting their own preferences (again, as I know this has been discussed previously, though it may have been on pianotech), or perhaps directing me to a previous discussion, I would be grateful.<BR><BR>David Skolnik<BR>Hastings on Hudson, NY<BR><BR>At 07:57 PM 3/25/2005 -0500, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Jim-<BR>You could pull the action, pick up a hand full of keys, steam them and put them back into the piano.<BR>This is a job for the Singer Lazer Steamer.<BR>Pull the keys, put a drop of water on the hole, spray the steam and put it on the frame.<BR>Ed S.<BR> <BR> <BR> <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A> <BR> <DD>To: </B><A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A><BR> <DD>Sent:</B> 3/25/2005 6:57:58 PM <BR> <DD>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] Pulley keys.<BR><BR> <DD><FONT face=arial color=#000080 size=2>Thanks Hans,<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>These came to us “right out of the box” so it must have been some new guy at the factory. Guess I’ll have to buy a set of .125 (is that right?) pins and start sizing all the new pianos…<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>Jim Busby <BR> <DD><BR></FONT>  <DD><FONT face=tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR> <DD>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] On Behalf Of </B>Hans E Sander<BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, March 25, 2005 1:44 PM<BR> <DD>To:</B> caut@ptg.org<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] Pulley keys.<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times"><BR></FONT>  <DD><FONT face=tahoma size=2>Hi Jim,<BR> <DD>The holes were drilled consistent at the factory (believe me) but somebody later (maybe even in the factory) removed, pulled the keys the wrong way. I have seen this many times.<BR> <DD>Hans Sander <BR><BR> <DD>>>> jim_busby@byu.edu 03/25/05 3:04 PM >>><BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face=arial color=#000080 size=2>Hi Joe,<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>No, the holes aren’t consistent. In fact, if you insert a “CF” tool you see that sometimes the hole is oblong from top to bottom and sometimes it is oblong side to side. I’m not sure what’s happening. <BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>I know how to fix it, I’m just wondering why it is that way, and frankly, our church buys thousands of these and I’m in a position to influence them. <BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>Regards,<BR> <DD>Jim<BR> <DD><BR></FONT>  <DD><FONT face=tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR> <DD>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</A>] On Behalf Of </B>Joe And Penny Goss<BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, March 25, 2005 12:47 PM<BR> <DD>To:</B> College and University Technicians<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] Pulley keys.<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times"><BR></FONT>  <DD><FONT face=arial size=2>Hi,<BR> <DD>Any chance they forgot to chance drill sizes at the factory?<BR> <DD>If all are the same oversize this seems like a posibility.<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times">Joe Goss RPT<BR> <DD>Mother Goose Tools<BR> <DD><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR> <DD><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/" eudora="autourl">www.mothergoosetools.com</A><BR></FONT> <DL> <DD><FONT face=arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">Jim Busby</A> <BR> <DD>To:</B> <A href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> <BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, March 25, 2005 10:44 AM<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] Pulley keys.<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times"><BR></FONT>  <DD><FONT face=tahoma color=#000080 size=2>List, (especially Don M.)<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>We just bought 9 new UST7s and all the keys are pulley! Not a huge amount, but not acceptable. I wanted to size them but the pins are smaller than what I have on hand. (.125 ??) </FONT><FONT color=#000080 size=2>However, just to let you know how big the holes were some of the Yamaha pins would fit (.137)<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face="Times New Roman, Times" color=#000080><BR>  <DD>My question is, has anyone else noticed this, and am I being too nitpicky. (since this is only a vertical for heaven’s sakes…) Does this amount of “pully-ness” really make that much of a difference in an upright used mainly for non majors?<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>Thanks,<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>Jim Busby RPT<BR> <DD>BYU<BR></FONT> <DD><FONT face=arial color=#000080 size=2><BR>  <DD><BR></FONT> </DD></DL></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>