<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=us-ascii"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK= href="cid:filelist.xml@01C3AD0C.F9D78610"= rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="State"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=blue= link=blue> <DIV class=Section1> I believe the Hamburg has many more hours= in production than the NY?  700 to 150?   If this= is true I don't think it's because the Germans are= slow...;-]   David I.   ----- Original message= ----------------------------------------> From: Jim Busby= <<A= href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">jim_busby@byu.edu</A>> To:= College and University Technicians <<A= href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</A>> Received:= Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:16:13 -0700 Subject: RE: RE : [Experts]= Steinway New York vs Hamburg Hi Ric,<o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial"><o:p> </o:p> <st1:PersonName>Eric Schandall</st1:PersonName><FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> did a little informal “blind”= testing and his take on it was (of course) they tended to choose= NY until they were shown which was the NY and which <SPAN= class=GramE>was the= <st1:State><st1:place><SPAN= class=GramE><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial">Hamburg</st1:place></st1:State><FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2>, then the= <st1:State><st1:place>Hamburg</st1:place></st1:State><FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> seemed somehow “better” and= they frequently changed their mind. He was curious and slightly= amused at the fickle nature of people. His conclusion was that= the “mental” part of selection is not to be overrated, and that= the <st1:State><st1:place>Hamburg</st1:place></st1:State><FONT= face=Arial color=navy size=2> has some “exotic” appeal. Who= knows?<o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial"><o:p> </o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The= past article in the NY Times on this very topic is quite good,= but I can’t remember what issue. Two months= ago??<o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial"><o:p> </o:p> <st1:PersonName>Jim Busby</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p> <SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial"><o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: caut-bounces@ptg.org= [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Richard Brekne <SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Saturday, November= 15, 2003 5:58 AM To: College and University= Technicians Subject: Re: RE : [Experts] Steinway New York= vs Hamburg <o:p> </o:p>  = <o:p></o:p> Serge Harel wrote:= <o:p></o:p> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"= TYPE="CITE"> Hi= <o:p></o:p> For me the best concert= piano is a recent NY S&S but with a complete Hamburg= action, heavy weight Hamburg hammer head and a Stanwood PTD.= <o:p></o:p> This set-up gives the= better of two worlds and makes glorious sound...= <o:p></o:p> Serge Harel <A= href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"></A> <o:p><= /o:p></BLOCKQUOTE> That would be= interesting to hear and play actually. Where are the hammers= from exactly... Hamburg factory directs or bought privately in= Europe ?  and what is the SW curve and ratio ? For that= matter... how did you get a whole complete Hamburg action for a= New York instrument. Fortell ! :) <o:p></o:p> Cheers RicB  = <o:p></o:p> -- Richard Brekne= RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway <A= href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</= A> <A= href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://hom= e.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A> <A= href="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www= hf.uib..no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</A>=  <o:p></o:p></DIV></BODY></HTML>