<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" ='xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"' xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C3F6DE.86ADB710" = rel=File-List><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="PersonName" = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P.MsoPlainText { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoPlainText { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoPlainText { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; = mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } SPAN.SpellE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-spl-e: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple = link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV>Lance,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm wondering about plate/bridge location (hence speaking length) when = you mention string breakage? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just can't believe this (the problem you describe) would happen in a new = Mason...say it ain't so!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For Pete's sake, they're only producing two models of grands (currently), = you'd think they'd have the jigs right, especially when you see the size of plate-location pins they use! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In any case, the factory should be able to provide you with speaking length at = #88 for a quick reference. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't want to send you on a goose-chase Lance, but often find it useful = to look at a problem from more than one angle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best of luck!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Cramer,</DIV> <DIV>Brandon University</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of = llafargue Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:50 AM To: 'College and = University Technicians' Subject: RE: hammer shank = length </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I agree, = it’s just hard to see what’s going on back there and I think ideally the = hammers would be rehung, especially if it’s also = contributing to string breakage.  I’ll = study it closer to see if I can tell exactly what’s hitting back there.  = <O:P></O:P> <O:P></O:P> <DIV> <st1:PersonName>Lance Lafargue</st1:PersonName>, = RPT<O:P></O:P> LAFARGUE PIANOS<O:P></O:P> New Orleans = Chapter, PTG<O:P></O:P> 985.72P.IANO<O:P></O:P> <st1:PersonName>llafargue@charter.net</st1:PersonName><O:P></O:P></DIV> <O:P></O:P> -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Erwinspiano@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, = 2004 9:08 AM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Re: hammer shank length <O:P></O:P> <DIV> <DIV> In a message dated = 2/19/2004 6:26:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, llafargue@charter.net writes:<O:P></O:P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; = PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: blue 1.5pt solid; = PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> 5” to 5 = 1/8”  = <O:P></O:P> If the = hammer is mounted much longer than 5 1/8”, touch gets heavy, if shorter than = 4 7/8”, you get regulation problems and reduces leverage.  Also, tails may hit = whippen flanges when hammer comes to rest.  <O:P></O:P> <O:P></O:P> I just = worked on a 2001 M&H BB and the hammer line was so off, if you pushed the = action in for proper strike @ C8 the back checks interfere with sostenuto and = under levers, no matter what.  = The piano is also breaking strings at the V bar and I suspect the hammer = line has something to do with it.  = Regards,<O:P></O:P> <O:P></O:P> <DIV> <st1:PersonName>Lance Lafargue</st1:PersonName>, RPT<O:P></O:P> LAFARGUE PIANOS<O:P></O:P> New = Orleans Chapter, PTG<O:P></O:P> 985.72P.IANO<O:P></O:P> <st1:PersonName>llafargue@charter.net</st1:PersonName><O:P></O:P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV>            Lance<O:P></O:P></DIV> <DIV>    In that case I see nothing wrong with using a motortool drum sander to hollow = out the back of the backcheck. Some new backcheck replacement I've used for = stwy's have this featire which is helpful when installing modern type back = action In an old stwy with minimal clearances. This might give you enough room = to move the action to its proper location. What do you think?<O:P></O:P></DIV> <DIV>    Dale<O:P></O:P></DIV> <DIV> <O:P></O:P></DIV> <DIV> <O:P></O:P></DIV> <DIV> Erwins Pianos = Restorations 4721 Parker Rd. Modesto, Ca 95357 209-577-8397 Rebuilt = Steinway , Mason &Hamlin = Sales www.Erwinspiano.com<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></BL= OCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>