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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Unfortunately, you didn’t =
read the
entire statement or didn’t read it carefully enough (is that a =
male
thing?). The Kafkaesque direction that this dialogue is going =
forces me
to clarify lest someone haul me before the PC court based on your =
erroneous
elaboration of my points. (Didn’t’ I say this was a =
slippery slope.)
Clearly the gender of any individual has nothing to do with their =
potential to
become a piano technician, doctor, getting a 3.95 GPA, or even playing =
on the
PGA tour—wow! I was simply saying that we =
(humanity—that includes
men and women together as one group) are not all born with the same =
innate
abilities as our obsession with equality sometimes forces us to =
believe.
In addition and separate from that, there are gender differences. =
How
about that! There tend to be differences between men and =
women. Not
a profound statement—or a sexist one, I might add. As in any
statistical analysis, you can’t draw conclusions about any one =
individual
based on bell shaped curves or standard deviations. It’s =
just
information. Unfortunately, information is too often subject to
misinterpretation. </span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>David Love<br>
davidlovepianos@comcast.net </span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>Keith
Roberts<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 22, =
2006
9:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> College and =
University
Technicians<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] =
Differences?</span></font></p>
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face=Georgia><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia'>Sorry, that's the way I =
read it.</span></font></p>
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face=Georgia><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia'>Keith</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span
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face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span=
></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" =
title="davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David
Love</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 =
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">'College and =
University
Technicians'</a> </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span=
></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Sunday,
January 22, 2006 8:59 PM</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span
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pan></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> RE: [CAUT]
Differences?</span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No, that’s =
not what
I said. We are not all equal. There are gender =
differences.
Two separate statements.</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face="Times =
New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>David Love<br>
<a =
href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</=
a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 =
face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>Keith
Roberts<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 22, =
2006
8:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> College and =
University
Technicians<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CAUT] =
Differences?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 =
color=navy
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I
don’t agree with Roger, we’re not all equal—at least =
not in
innate ability, and there are gender differences (thankfully). =
</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>David =
Love<br>
<a =
href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</=
a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 =
color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>David, you
make it sound as if the differences in innate ability are due to gender
differences. Innate ability has nothing to do with gender. I agree with =
Jeanne
that women are intimidated not to try as children because the =
assumptions
society forces on them makes it so difficult to succeed. There are just =
as many
women as men out there that can be a complete technician. There are =
some
physical differences such as upper body strength and average size but =
they have
nothing to do with whether or not a person can figure out the =
adjustments on a
piano action or voice a hammer. My mother was 17 when she entered UC =
Berkeley
and graduated in three years, Phi Beta Kappa, a 3.95 grade average. She =
wanted
to be an engineer but that was not allowed in 1939. My Aunt Carol was =
the first
woman to be admitted to the med school she went to and became a =
physician in
1952. I have heard complaints of the difficulty to get an education as a =
piano
technician, particularly for women. I assume this to be because it =
is a
male dominated mentor sort of education system that makes assumptions =
about the
innate ability of women and what they can or cannot do. Hey, get me a =
cup of
coffee.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 =
color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Keith Roberts</span></font></p>
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color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><a
href="mailto:kpiano@goldrush.com">kpiano@goldrush.com</a> =
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