<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C39D76.498AA2B0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> List<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I need to clarify that Richard = Davenport says it engages slightly when the backcheck is close (high checking) on = hard blows. As I understand it if it is regulated that close the tail may = skim the surface on a hard blow because of shank flex. Could = be. I’d like to see his presentation and those = films.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p>= <st1:PersonName>Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> BYU<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Jim Busby Sent: = <st1:date Month="10" Day="28" Year="2003">Tuesday, October 28, = 2003</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="16" Minute="57">4:57 PM</st1:time> To: College and = University Technicians Subject: RE: Pinning and = Tone <o:p> </o:p> Alan,<o:p></o:p><= /span> <o:p> </o:p>= According to = Richard Davenport the backcheck does slightly involve the tail if you look at = those high speed tapes of it. I’d like to see it, but he says that = higher checking does result in less power as Richard said, and Ric. clarified = for me.  As Ric said, more drop = = slower rep, and higher checking = (slightly) less power. I agree. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= I misunderstood = Richard and thought he meant higher checking would give slower rep speed but = after Ric. pointed out my misreading I re-read it and Richard was actually very = clear. My “Oh” meant “oh, do I feel dumb that I didn’t = read it right the first time.”  = Sorry if anyone read more than that into it. I’m not mean spirited at = all and would never intentionally offend anyone.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Thanks,<o:p></o:p= > Jim = Busby<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <o:p> </o:p>= -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Richard Brekne Sent: = <st1:date Month="10" Day="28" Year="2003">Tuesday, October 28, = 2003</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="16" Minute="28">4:28 PM</st1:time> To: College and = University Technicians Subject: Re: Pinning and = Tone<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Its Richard Wests point, but I believe he = refers to less power on repeated blows. Not sure tho. Richard ?? = <o:p></o:p> Cheers RicB <o:p></o:p> Alan McCoy wrote: = <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' TYPE=CITE>  Hi,Pardon my density, but = why does higher checking reduce power? If the hammer tail doesn't drag on the way = up (and it shouldn't), I can't see how higher checking reduces power. = Checking, after all, occurs after the hammer has hit the string.I must be missing something here.Alan McCoy <o:p></o:p> <div> -----Original = Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>]<= span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of Richard = Brekne Sent: <st1:date = Month="10" Day="28" Year="2003">Tuesday, October 28, = 2003</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="7" Minute="22">7:22 AM</st1:time> To: College and University = Technicians Subject: Re: Pinning and = Tone  <o:p></o:p> </div> Jim, I dont think Richard mentioned that = higher checking was a detriment to repetion speed. It was lower drop = slower = rep speed, and higher check = less power. <o:p></o:p> Cheers RicB <o:p></o:p> Jim Busby wrote: = <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' TYPE=CITE> Richard, <o:p></o:p> This is exactly what started this thread, and = after my visit with Eric Schandall and repinning to 4 grams with higher checking things are working wonderfully. Fred said 1-3 grams, but Eric told me "No less = than 2, no more than 4". Also, they are making the tails a bit longer = and want higher checking. It doesn't hurt repetition. It helps it. The key = seems to be to pay careful attention to the rep spring strength. No bouncing, jerking, etc. but a firm rise w/o a jump. = <o:p></o:p> Jim Busby BYU <o:p></o:p> ----- Richard West wrote :: .... But setting the drop low works against good repetition and setting = the checking high reduces power.  Both are more difficult to set and, I think, less reliable over the long run.  <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, <st1:place><st1:City>Bergen</st1:City>, = <st1:country-region>Norway</st1:country-region></st1:place> <a href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</a> = <a = href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broad= park.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</a> <a = href="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib= .no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</a>  <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. 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