<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2627" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, for your advice.  That's = how I'll do it.  This is my first season here and so far, the set ups and = uses have all been different--so I've been learning how the piano reacts (no complaints *yet*-- thanks to the head's up I got in Guy Nichol's = class in Nashville).  At my last gig, lighting wasn't an issue.  Oh, = for those days!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial = size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There's no problem getting the = piano pre-heated.  But since it's not first on the program and will be = closed up and sitting off stage for a while, I wondered how the lag time would affect it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS  How long does it take a hot = piano to go back up in pitch?  (Not a joke, just a question.)</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=DMannino@kawaius.com = href="mailto:DMannino@kawaius.com">Don Mannino</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">College and University Technicians</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 = 6:41 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] pitch under = the lights</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080>Barbara,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080>Hopefully = you know the hall and piano well enough to have a good idea of how it goes out = - the tenor is the most variable in the majority of pianos I have worked with.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080>If you can = get the hall to put the lights on for an hour (with the piano on = stage and open) before your first tuning, that is ideal.  Otherwise, I = would tune it about 1hz (~4c) sharp when cool (not cold), then talk to the = stage manager and tell them you need to touch up the tuning with the piano = in place and the lights on after rehearsal.  If the stage manager balks at = this, be firm - let him/her know that it is quite necessary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080>On the = 'hot' touch up, pay special attention to the octaves below the temperament and into = the bass, and work the unisons of course.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080>Don = Mannino RPT</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=701143423-25042005></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Barbara Richmond<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 4:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Cc:</B> College and University Technicians<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CAUT] pitch under the lights<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all (especially Guy = Nichols),</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Big concert on Friday.  = The piano concerto isn't first on the program, darn.  So......where = should I put the pitch--preheated under the lights or o' de natural?  If it = helps, I tune before the rehearsal, the rehearsal is mid-afternoon, = orchestra breaks for dinner (piano gets touched up), concert at 8 pm.  I = know it doesn't take long for the downward drift to take place, but how long = does it take for it to go back up?   </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've found that the drift with the = lights is normally 4 cents in the tenor and = treble.   Fortunately, the unisons don't go wild.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial = size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your = insight.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Barbara Richmond</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>