<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <DIV><SPAN class=437275612-05112004>Just a thought, maybe PTG RPT = status should be either the final exam or part of the course in piano tech schools. If = they would have the PTG exams as part of their curriculum, it would be a good = incentive for students to finish. I think RPT status should become the = standard for apprentices that want to earn a living as piano techs.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=437275612-05112004></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=437275612-05112004>Marcel Carey, RPT</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=437275612-05112004>Sherbrooke, QC</SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Wimblees@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> November 5, 2004 12:11 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CAUT] teaching piano tuning<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial = color=#000000> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 11/4/2004 7:21:11 PM Central Standard Time, jim_busby@byu.edu writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial = color=#000080> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Wim,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The = answer isn’t a lack of students here at BYU. We turn down around 10 to 15 people = every year who want to learn to “tune”.<SPAN = style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>BYU has had piano tech programs in the past which produced = several fine technicians. Currently we have a “mentoring = program” with 3 students. Our Dean has asked why we don’t start another larger = program. Here are some of the reasons we gave;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. Time/budget/space. How could we fit in more when we’re up to = our eyeballs with work now?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Market = saturation. If we produced 5 or 10 RPTs a year … well, soon = we’d have too many locally.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. = Competition with local technicians. Some are already upset that we produce one RPT a year.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. In the = past some have quit the program early thinking they knew enough… = (<SPAN class=GramE>they</SPAN> = didn’t)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I agree = with you on the need for more top notch technicians, but don’t know if a = school is the answer. Do you see these as issues?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Jim</SPAN></FONT></P></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Jim</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can understand the time/budget space issue. The question = is, is the Dean interested enough to budget another full time = faculty member to teach the course of study, and fund the equipment, space, = supplies, etc.?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As far saturating the market, I think that will solve itself. = When a piano tuner graduates, and sees there is no business, they will move = to areas of the country that does need them. If BYU does start a full time = program, it will attract students from around the country. (Same philosophy as = doctors and accountants graduating from the school. They don't all stay in Provo, = do they?) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As far as students leaving early, if the school offers a degree, = it should encourage most of them to graduate. It doesn't = prevent them from leaving early, thinking "they know it all," but might be enough = of an incentive for them to stay. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Which brings us to the other posts, the need for college = level techs to have a BS. If the CAUT program is successful, and universities = start asking for tuners with the education and experience, it might encourage = students to get the degree.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just some thoughts on the matter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wim </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>