<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Hello, Jean Marc Beauchamp,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>In my workshop I use a very classic humidifier that works with ultra sons. It = contents 20 liters, but it is not enough for more than 2 days in a very dry = period (winter) .</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>of course these systems are cheap, and I use mine for 3 years without any = problem but the regular cleaning of the vibrating element. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Filters for the water have to be changed once/year too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>The 100$ you evocate is for an automat system I guess, some are even higher = priced. They are very convenient, as you don't have to be there to put water inside.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>The cheapest automatic systems I've find where more around 1500$, so I = bought 15 ultra sonic humidifiers, had a good price and sell them to my customers = (I paid around $85 each).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>In fact, if the aeration of the room is not too fast, after a few, the = moisture stabilize a bit and less water is needed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Systems based on ultra sound are silent enough  and they = work the same if the room is hot or cold.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>But eventually a very fine dust (a very few, that I could not notice in my = shop) is produce by the particles in water, and depose on the furniture around = the humidifier.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>System based on steam works better when the room is cold and far less if it is = warm. make a little noise generally?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Other systems are based on natural evaporation,under an air flow and they = are noisy and not very efficient if the temp is cold.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>The good place for a "floor humidifier" is not on the floor really, as the = moisture then will not be enough distributed in the place.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Mine is on a little table, but higher could be better, I use the water coming = from the climate control system, so I have distilled water at hand, and the = extra water (sometime) is driven outside . Sometime enough water coming, = sometime I may add some.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>To protect the place from the humidity coming from outside, I have a = special fan that blows very dry air (25% approx.) from another room in the workshop = , so the shop is then under a slight higher pressure and humidity does not come in.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I've find a very precise humidistat with an electric switch for controlling = this last system (a long tube with a few hairs inside that react to humidity changes)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>That seem as museum conditions, and a bit excessive, but in fact I was = obliged to act like this, as my workshop could not be enough isolated despite the works = we've done on the walls and the roof.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Ceci mis à part, je serai très interessé d'avoir des données = d'optimisation ou générales sur un Steinway B , N.Y. (1961) accelerated action, et = votre expereince en ce domaine me passionne. Merci pour votre généreuse proposition.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Hope that helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Piano technician</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Paris FRANCE</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=439130521-11112002></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT = size=2><SPAN class=439130521-11112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=439130521-11112002></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=439130521-11112002> </SPAN>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Jean-Marc Beauchamp<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> lundi 11 novembre 2002 16:43<BR><B>À :</B> caut@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> = humidifier brand and model?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello you all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am the head pianotech at the = Faculty of Music of the University of Montréal (french speaking University). They = will soon begin to build me a new shop which will have 700 square feet. I want = to find a good humidifier for that room, a floor model. There is no humidifier = system in that old building. I would like to find one around $ 1000,00. Anyone = could suggest me something in that range.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also I would like to exchange info = about the Stanwood metrology. I use this metrology since 1995 to rebuild grand = piano action. I cumulated over the years datas. I would like to share, = exchange and discuss with other fellows who use that system.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope my english is OK.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanking you in advance,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jean-Marc Beauchamp RPT</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>e-mail adress at the Faculty of = Music: <A = href="mailto:jean-marc.beauchamp@umontreal.ca">jean-marc.beauchamp@umon= treal.ca</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>