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<DIV>Horace,</DIV>
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<DIV>As of two weeks ago when I talked with Bob Lubtek, according to him =
the
factory does not use plastic. Steinway Hall/basement does but the =
factory still
uses lacquer/thinner.</DIV>
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<DIV>Like you I don't care for that plastic sound either, but I do admit =
your
sugar/water mix does intrigue ones imagination. :-)</DIV>
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<DIV>Gina</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:hgreeley@leland.Stanford.EDU"
title=hgreeley@leland.Stanford.EDU>Horace Greeley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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title=caut@ptg.org>caut@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 10, 1999 =
4:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Flexible collodion =
for
voicing hammers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Mike,<BR><BR>At 03:11 PM 12/10/99 -0400, you =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite">><BR>> "keytop" (which, by =
the way,
is not what is used at S&S).<BR><BR>-So what is S&S
using?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>OK, at the risk of being accused of being coy, =
the
direct answer is<BR>that I do not specifically know what is used
_today_. The last time I <BR>talked with Michael Mohr about =
this, it was
1995/6, and I was tired of<BR>waiting for keytops to dissolve, and =
tired of
the sound I got from the <BR>grumbled up bits of plastic sold by =
various
supply houses...(OK (again),<BR>I didn't like the sound of the =
keytops,
either). Anyway, what Michael<BR>told me then is that they were =
using
the same grumbled up bits of <BR>plastic, only they got them from Rohm =
Chemical in drums.<BR><BR>Aside from the tonal issues, as that is so =
much an
issue of taste to begin<BR>with...what I really object to with the =
plastic is
that, once the acetone<BR>is gone, there you are...usually until you =
install a
new set of hammers.<BR>I know that many other folk feel very =
differently about
it. It surely is<BR>much faster than many other methods. =
Still, as
Ghandi said: "There is<BR>more to life than increasing it's =
speed."<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite">(It's wise to know exactly what's =
already
applied before adding any =
more<BR>concoctions)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes. Even
then, there is a very long history of line workers using =
non-<BR>standard
things for hardening. I am not sure you ever really "know" =
what<BR>you
have unless you start out with brand new hammers.<BR><BR>I remember =
one visit
to the Kimball factory and watching one of the "voicers"<BR>start out =
with a
freshly installed set of those little brass mallets, err,<BR>I mean, =
hammers
they used to make by completely dousing the entire set<BR>(several =
sets at a
time, actually) with 6:1 thinner/lacquer. The event<BR>answered =
some
questions I had had about why the Viennese edition instruments<BR>had =
a
certain, ah, quality about their sound.<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite type="cite">Thanks-</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>My pleasure - =
Actually, I
would be glad to know if anyone has more up-to-date<BR>data on
this.<BR><BR>Best.<BR><BR>Horace<BR><BR>(p.s. - Mike, caught any =
freights
lately?)<BR><BR>h<BR>
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