<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.100" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Calisto MT; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman" } SPAN.emailstyle17 { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: = "Calisto MT"; TEXT-DECORATION: none } SPAN.emailstyle18 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } SPAN.EmailStyle20 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US id=role_body bottomMargin=7 vLink=purple = link=blue bgColor=white leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Sorry, that's the way I read = it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Georgia size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidlovepianos@comcast.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">'College and University Technicians'</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 22, 2006 = 8:59 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CAUT] = Differences?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">No, = that’s not what I said.  We are not all equal.  There are gender = differences.  Two separate statements.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">David Love</SPAN></FONT><FONT = color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy"><BR><A = href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</= A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> = <A href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</A> [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On = Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith Roberts<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, January 22, 2006 = 8:27 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> = </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">College and University Technicians</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [CAUT] Differences?</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">I don’t agree with Roger, we’re not all equal—at least not in = innate ability, and there are gender differences (thankfully).  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: = navy">David Love<BR><A = href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</= A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: = navy">David, you make it sound as if the differences in innate ability are due to gender differences. Innate ability has nothing to do with gender. I agree = with Jeanne that women are intimidated not to try as children because  the assumptions society forces on them makes it so difficult to succeed. = There are just as many women as men out there that can be a complete = technician. There are some physical differences such as upper body strength and = average size but they have nothing to do with whether or not a person can = figure out the adjustments on a piano action or voice a hammer. My mother was 17 = when she entered UC Berkeley and graduated in three years, Phi Beta Kappa, a = 3.95 grade average. She wanted to be an engineer but that was not allowed in = 1939. My Aunt Carol was the first woman to be admitted to the med school she = went to and became a physician in 1952. I have heard complaints of the = difficulty to get an education as a piano technician, particularly for women. I = assume this to be because it is a male dominated mentor sort of education = system that makes assumptions about the innate ability of women and what they can = or cannot do. Hey, get me a cup of coffee.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: = navy">Keith Roberts</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy"><A href="mailto:kpiano@goldrush.com">kpiano@goldrush.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>