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<DIV><SPAN class=128585222-03062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Just a
test, I dont receive nothing from the Caut for
sometime.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Isaac OLEG<BR><BR>Entretien et réparation de
pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur
SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 01 47 18 06 =
90<BR>cell:
06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> =
caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Isaac
OLEG<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi 23 mai 2003 =
20:40<BR><B>À :</B>
College and University Technicians<BR><B>Objet :</B> RE: =
Efficient
repining method by Renner<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003>Well I try not to go farther =
than 1400 it
is yet a large size.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003>Ideally we should add one size
only.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>That's funny because when I begin to learn the trade, all the =
pinning
work in the shop was done with these long centers, and of course they =
burnish
the flange in one direction only (but thy work the Birdseye too a =
little more
than pre cut centers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>After that I begin to use precut, and the direction of the =
fiber I did
not think about. Even the burnished I use in both directions, and =
more
than wanted, I have to go on size more than what I =
want.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>So
I'll give a try next time, but yet I suspect this fiber direction idea =
will
change many things.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003></SPAN><SPAN
class=774562818-23052003></SPAN><SPAN =
class=774562818-23052003><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003> I don't see how the center =
may not
hold well in the Birdseye, unless the part quality is really poor, or =
the part
have been brutalized in some sort.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003>Even Renner say that some =
factory and some
techs ask for no graphite in their parts. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003>seem to me that it can give a =
better
consistency in time, but yes I've seen many times sluggish parts while =
new, or
recent, I'd consider it more a wood moisture problem but every idea is =
welcome.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Beside, Renner is the only place where I can find really good =
graphite
sticks (round ones, really slick . Not that I make a large use of them =
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Talking about moisture, they say 45%-70% is acceptable, and =
that in a
very dry shop, the action will stabilize dry after a week (seem a long =
delay
to me) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Nowadays we can't say they are not experienced in piano =
actions
!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Best
Regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=774562818-23052003><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Isaac OLEG<BR><BR>Entretien et réparation de
pianos.<BR><BR>PianoTech<BR>17 rue de Choisy<BR>94400 VITRY sur
SEINE<BR>FRANCE<BR>tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98<BR>fax : 033 01 47 18 06
90<BR>cell: 06 60 42 58 77 </FONT></P>
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size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> =
caut-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Richard
Brekne<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi 23 mai 2003 =
12:14<BR><B>À :</B>
College and University Technicians<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: =
Efficient
repining method by Renner<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P>David's Email wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">Rebushing rather than repinning at what
size? 21.5? Interesting that in <BR>Renner's technical =
info
they didn't mention the most important aspect, i.e. <BR>the pin =
must be
tight in the birdseye.
<P>David I. <BR> <BR><A
=
href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"></A> </P></BLOCKQU=
OTE>
<P><BR>Well...what sounds good in a document, and what actually is =
done, and
what actually results are ofte times different things entirely.
<P>Personally, I have yet to find a set of stock shanks that I =
havent been
able to improve substantially by repinning. And secondly, when I =
order
shanks from Renner I specify that no graphite is to be used in the =
bushing
felt. Sometimes I have to order from an alternate manufacturer =
because of
this. I like most everything Renner makes, but I wish somebody would =
let
them know that graphite in bushings is not such a good idea.... =
especially
when there is a great alternative.
<P>RicB <BR>-- <BR>Richard Brekne <BR>RPT, N.P.T.F. <BR>UiB, Bergen, =
Norway
<BR><A =
href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A>
<BR><A
=
href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broad=
park.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A>
<BR><A
=
href="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib=
.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</A>
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