<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> I would be interested knowing if aliquot placement has a bearing on bearing and therefore on this problem.  It seems to me that moving aliquots closer or farther away from the bridge not only affects the pitch of the duplex part of the string, but has some affect on downbearing.  I've never done any research on this, but perhaps someone has and could shed some light on the aliquot/downbearing relationship.   Richard West llafargue wrote: <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid001301c4cd76$bbf1fd90$ae7d7244@NEWDELL20"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel="File-List" href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4CD44.6DD4A860"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName">  <style>  </style>  </o:SmartTagType> <div class="Section1"> I have not been back, I’m a problem, so don’t know the bearing, crown, sound, etc.  Just wanted to know what others thought of the solution.  Like, if your BMW’s headlights flicker, just unplug them.  Mary, I thought of your solution, but I go back to…. After $28,000, should the customer be expected to accept this and what will the piano “do” later? Also, the maker says it ain’t right, the dealer just doesn’t want to pay moving expenses, etc.  The dealer is several hours away, out of state.  Thanks to all.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <st1:PersonName>Lance Lafargue</st1:PersonName>, RPT<o:p></o:p> LAFARGUE PIANOS<o:p></o:p> New Orleans Chapter, PTG<o:p></o:p> 985.72P.IANO<o:p></o:p> <a href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net">llafargue@charter.net</a><o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.lafarguepianos.com">www.lafarguepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">caut-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org">mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ed Sutton Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:43 AM To: College and University Technicians; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> Subject: RE: [CAUT] back duplex <o:p> </o:p> <div> Lance-<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> How does the piano sound now?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Ed S.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style="border-top: medium none; border-bottom: medium none; border-left: 1.5pt solid black; border-right: medium none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style=""> From: <a href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net" title="llafargue@charter.net">llafargue</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: 11/17/2004 9:28:39 AM <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject: [CAUT] back duplex<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> I was recently called out to a 7’ grand with a buzz.  Names and brand will be withheld to reduce my stress level.  It turned out to be the back duplex.  There was so little bearing at the aliquot that the strings could be moved back and fourth with a finger nail.  After much searching, I finally found, (and a local tech who works on these a lot suggested/confirmed) that when the humidity went up, the strings touching the aliquot were raised enough to buzz (at center of piano, around F3).  I called the factory and the tech said, sounds like a bearing problem, plate position problem, etc.  Send it back! , we’ll send another.  I did.  Then, when the 2nd piano came in, it had the same bearing problem, so I stopped, did not prep, just called the factory.  The dealer then called a second tech out who threaded a strip of felt through the back duplex to prevent any ringing at all.  What effect does this have on the sound, etc.  I figure, if it was designed to ring, it should.  Was this a good solution and an ethical handling of the customer, who paid around $28,000?  Thanks.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Lance Lafargue, RPT<o:p></o:p> LAFARGUE PIANOS<o:p></o:p> New Orleans Chapter, PTG<o:p></o:p> 985.72P.IANO<o:p></o:p> <a href="mailto:llafargue@charter.net">llafargue@charter.net</a><o:p></o:p> <a href="http://www.lafarguepianos.com">www.lafarguepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html>