<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C40B1D.0E9C7BF0"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> You guys are incorrigible! = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Cheers,<o:p></o:p>= Jim<o:p></o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Elwood Doss, Jr. Sent: Monday, March 15, = 2004 9:58 PM To: ilvey@sbcglobal.net; = College and University Technicians Subject: Re: Treble = ringing problem <o:p> </o:p> <div> How do you keep the bean = bags on an upright?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Joy!<o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Elwood Doss, = Jr.<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> ----- Original Message = ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From:</span= > <a href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net" title="ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David = Ilvedson</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To:<= /font> <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org" title="caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent:</span= > Monday, March 15, 2004 8:36 PM<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject:</s= pan> RE: Treble ringing problem<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> Well, I guess I can't say he doesn't know = beans anymore...;-]<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> David I.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> ----- Original = message ----------------------------------------> From: Jim Busby <<a = href="mailto:jim_busby@byu.edu">jim_busby@byu.edu</a>> To: College and University Technicians <<a = href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a>> Received: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:33:47 -0700 Subject: RE: Treble ringing problem<o:p></o:p> Hi all,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Dean Garten uses = 2 or 3 small narrow bean bags to mute off sections/areas. It helps you find = problems and works well to temporarily mute the upper strings while tuning. = Before threading braid this is a quick way to diagnose and it really does aid = in tuning to “shut off” the upper = section.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <st1:PersonName>Jim Busby</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span= > -----Original = Message----- From: = caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Susan Kline Sent: Saturday, March 13, = 2004 9:43 AM To: College and = University Technicians Subject: RE: Treble = ringing problem<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> At 08:21 AM 3/13/2004 -0700, you wrote: <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> I think I'll start with stringing braid in the duplex in the mid and upper range = (not the top section).  <o:p></o:p> Don't = forget to investigate the backlength of the long tenor strings. If you pluck them and hear the same sounds as the after-ring they may = be contributing to it. If you wrap a whole bunch of the waste lengths on the piano you can really gut the character of the sound. There's a happy medium there someplace. Susan<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>