<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> David,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Juan Mas Cabre does amazingly = meticulous scalings for about $40.00 (Euros actually). Well worth it. He never said anything = about rights. I don’t think Bs are as different as some pianos but Juan = tells me that even a few mm difference matters. I’ll ask him about = “sharing” scalings with others. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Jim<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Porritt, David Sent: Friday, November = 11, 2005 10:51 AM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Jim:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Who does the scaling work?  Are the scales protected = intellectual property?  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I have a B here that we got from an alumna who died and gave it = to the school.  It is a 1940 instrument in pretty much original = condition.  I want to rebuild it this next summer.  I normally send out all the = belly work, but on this one I’d like to do at least the stringing and = use the Pure Sound wire.  Some other scaling considerations would be good also.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m so glad that there are a few people willing to try to = improve the instrument we’ve spent most of our adult lives = serving.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> dp<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David M. Porritt<o:p></o:p> <a = href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a><o:p><= /o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> Sent: Friday, November = 11, 2005 11:11 AM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Vince did a B in a house that has = two Bs side by side. Wow, what an improvement! It really outshines the other B. = The good thing about Pure Sound wire is that there are so many options. = There is a size 17 and a 17 “strong”, etc. The scaling is a big key in = this. I’m doing a 1098 and it will require 8 new hitch pins because of = the many single note gauges. A bit of a pain, but very do-able. I’ve also = made a separate treble bridge (8 notes) to change the “hockey = stick” and add more back scale. Of course this is an experiment, but soon = we’ll see how it turns out.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Let me know what questions you = have. If it’s a question of “would I”, most = definitely!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p= > Jim<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Porritt, David Sent: Friday, November = 11, 2005 8:52 AM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Jim:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m very interested in your work with the stainless = wire.  Do you have any Steinway Bs strung with this wire?  17 of our 36 = Steinways are Bs and they do have a characteristic sound at the low end of the = long bridge that I’d love to see improved.  = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> dp<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David M. Porritt<o:p></o:p> <a = href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a><o:p><= /o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> Sent: Wednesday, November = 09, 2005 12:59 PM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi = Don,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> You really have to go out on a limb = and try the stainless wire to appreciate it. That being said, I will use = Pure Sound wire whenever I possibly can. Vince Mrykalo says the same. Here are the = main advantages I see so far:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1> <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l1 level1 = lfo3'>No rust<o:p></o:p></li> <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l1 level1 = lfo3'>The sound is different, and you can best tell it with a side by side comparison. It is a richer sound. It sounds like someone did a good voicing job. It makes the piano sound bigger. It’s really = hard to describe. I’ve got several pianos here that we’re going = to record and study to analyze and when I do I’ll publish it. = For now, let’s just say I love it! I understand Jim Ellis is doing = some studies. If that’s true you know he’ll do a good = job.<o:p></o:p></li> <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l1 level1 = lfo3'>Less inharmonicity. By about 1-2 cents using a SAT. IOW on an M we = measured the stretch number for A at 7 cents with regular wire and 6 with Pure = Sound. Some notes had 2 cents difference.<o:p></o:p></li> <li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l1 level1 = lfo3'>Very stable tunings. Two months after restringing I find they’re = still right up to pitch! The wire bends a bit differently. It’s = simply more stable. Less tunings for our practice room = pianos.<o:p></o:p></li> </ol> <o:p> </o:p> In <st1:place = w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> it is catching on rapidly. I understand Steinway (<st1:place = w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Hamburg</st1:State></st1:place>) has been doing some tests = for the last two years and may use it in the near future. Several other = companies are looking at it.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Drawbacks = are:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <![if !supportLists]>1.          &nbsp= ;        <![endif]>Costs about 20 - 30% more than conventional wire.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2.          &nbsp= ;        <![endif]>During the initial stringing it breaks a bit more. (1- 2%?) Gregor Heller tells = me that this is common but after this initial stressing of the wire it = breaks about the same as other wire. BTW, Gregor immediately replaced the two = strings that broke (For 2 pianos. I can’t complain) In fact, I called = Hellerbass on Tuesday and Thursday the strings were here! (Go figure. I can’t = even get that service across the State here.) Hellerbass is = excellent!<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3.          &nbsp= ;        <![endif]>Only Hellerbass and Arledge make the bass. Both do a great job but Arledge = insisted on making the German loops, which cost about $70.00 more. Juan Mas Cabre = says that this isn’t necessary.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>4.          &nbsp= ;        <![endif]>Long term…?? This worried me a bit, but I know one individual who has = been using it for 10 years and he says it’s great. Juan says it just = gets better with age! My gut feeling is that this will age even better that conventional wire because of no rust or = tarnishing.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m not getting any royalties = or anything for this. I’m just excited about it because it seems to be a big improvement in a business where such advancements are fairly rare. And I = do believe this is a BIG thing! I’m restringing everything I can with = it. Stand by me long enough and I’ll probably resting you with = it!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p= > <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim Busby</st1:PersonName> = RPT<o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName = w:st="on">Brigham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Young</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType = w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Wigent, Donald E Sent: Wednesday, November = 09, 2005 7:24 AM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: RE: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Say Jim,  some time tell me = mor about the stainless wire. How does it sound and the like . = <o:p></o:p> Don Wigent I am still working on = getting some of steel benches made,  Oh well =  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> Sent: Tuesday, November = 08, 2005 11:08 PM To: <st1:PersonName = w:st="on">College and University Technicians</st1:PersonName> Subject: [CAUT] Large = wire spool?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> List,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Do any of you have a good “container” or = method to store and easily use piano wire in the large rolls? I’m also = hoping that I can figure out a way to adapt it with all my new “Pure Sound” stainless wire. The rolls are about 17 inches = diameter.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It seems I read something about this years ago but I couldn’t find anything on the archives. I recall something that it = had an arm with a sort of brake thingee too. The container is the part I = can’t visualize. Having 15 huge boxes around would work, but there’s got = to be a better way. (I’ve always just set the roll on a blanket on the = plate.)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim = Busby</st1:PersonName> = BYU<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>