<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C396E2.BAC6C570" = rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple = link=blue bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Lance-</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another long shot hope-  The buzz = may be happening on the front duplex bar. If so, short of reshaping the bar, = shoving a tiny sliver of card under the string might stop the buzz.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll mail my old Revenko-Jones notes tomorrow.  Maybe Ron Koval will send the latest!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ed</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=lancelafargue@bellsouth.net href="mailto:lancelafargue@bellsouth.net">Lance Lafargue</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A title=caut@ptg.org href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">'College and University Technicians'</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 = 9:18 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: RE: Capo Buzz</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> So I guess my narrowed question is, given all of these excellent posts, = is:  With a = new B, should I increase the angle and slightly narrow the bar on the = speaking length side, given everything else I have tried?  Is there some consensus, = given the problems with the design?  = And how do I determine if I have a “soft” V-bar?  Voicing did nothing permanent but continue to weaken the = piano.  I plan to call Steinway = first before I do anything further.  = This owner of a new B is currently, officially, depressed =  ;  ) = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I may first = experiment with yarn in the duplex and PVCE glue on that segment, = before shaping the bar.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> <st1:PersonName>Lance Lafargue</st1:PersonName>, = RPT<o:p></o:p> LAFARGUE PIANOS<o:p></o:p> New Orleans = Chapter, PTG<o:p></o:p> 985.72P.IANO<o:p></o:p> lancelafargue@bellsouth.net<o:p></o:p></DIV> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Horace = Greeley Sent: Saturday, October 18, = 2003 11:02 PM To: College and = University Technicians Subject: Re: Capo Buzz <o:p> </o:p> Ron, At 09:47 PM = 10/18/2003 +1100, you wrote: <![if = !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> At 7:22 PM -0400 18/10/03, Ed = Sutton wrote: <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> . . . Within the = constraints of the S & S design, there are 3 causes of buzz: poorly shaped capo, capo = bruised by rough stringing, capo too soft due to failure to case harden in casting.<o:p></o:p> Plus the fallacious = practice of attempting to set the font duplex length to a harmonic of the speaking = length.<o:p></o:p> I totally agree with your assessment; and think that this practice has to do = with a basic misunderstanding of what the front duplex is supposed to = do.  The patent drawings help support this assumption.  I do = not remember the patent descriptions sufficiently well to know if they = confirm or refute what might be construed from the pictures as being a = reinforcing system.  This is further complicated, I think, by the presence of = the movable cast front duplexes still seen on so many older S&S pianos. I'm sure that there are others on the list who are much = more current with this stuff than myself...maybe they'll speak up. Best. Horace P.S. - Almost forgot, I've heard = some very good compliments about an instrument of yours that a friend of = mine heard in Syndey...Opera House, maybe?  Good Show!!! hg <![if = !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B= ODY></HTML>