<html> <body> How many of us use a cart, like a mail cart etc, to bring everything with us while servicing piano on campus? Andrew Anderson At 07:50 PM 1/8/2006, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Believe me...you WILL be goin= g for a lighter kit as the years go by.   When my knuckles started dragging on the floor, I knew it was time... You mentioned you use an abbreviated kit for long walking distances...that seems like the time for more fully loaded kit, rather than walk back to the car...? I would interested in a heavier kit only if it had wheels...I don't mind the walk to the car...what 30 feet?   David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California <hr> Original message From: "Jeff Olson" To: "College and University Technicians" Received: 1/8/2006 4:48:02 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case? I don't mind a heavier case -- mine weighs 33 lbs. "fully loaded" with tools -- for carrying the few yards into a house (I get too impatient having to journey to the car two or three more times for needed tools if I split up my tool collection along the lines Wim does).   For university or apartment work, when I need to walk a relatively long ways, I use an abbreviated tool bag that holds mostly tuning wrenches, a couple screwdrivers, etc., that weighs only a few pounds.  I mean, I'm macho, but not (completely) nuts.   I found your tool case, Ron, rather appealing; never liked the roll-up types -- tools tended to scatter/fall upon rolling out, and sometimes slither out upon rolling up, in the ones I've tried.   J0 <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:englepiano@juno.com">Ronald E Engle</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:caut@ptg.org">caut@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:12 PM <dd>Subject: Re: [CAUT] The Ideal Tool Case? <dd>My odyssey for the perfect case continues also.  I liked the Genck case which I used for 10 or so years.  After that wore out I bought one of the "close out" Genck's.  I could not use it because it was clumsy and you have to fill it to make it work and it became to heavy for me.  <dd>  <dd>I agree with Wim's philosophy and I would add an element of my own.  Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.  Why carry around tools you seldom use?  However I have not reached the tuning hammer and mutes only, approach yet. Presently I am using a laptop computer carrying case I had laying around which happens to be identical to ones for sale at Office Max or any office supply store.  The pouches, slots, flapped side pocket, movable divider all just happen to work out perfectly for me.  The Modification I did make is to borrow a pallet from the new Genck which has velcro hooks on the bottom edge.  It lays right in the case where the computer use to and is permanently positioned so the top edge of the pallet lays on the top edge of the case, so it is slanted for easy removal of tools, it is hinged at the bottom because of the velco and items can be kept underneath. The movable divider is beside the pallet giving space for a few small tools that are placed in there loose.  At the space at the bottom of the pallet I place my tuning hammer and a few necessities that are used at every tuning.  This kit is light, everything is easily accessible, the large flapped side space (usually empty) is used for temporary tools or supplies I know I might need for the job, sometimes umbrella, hat, ETD if you use one. It is soft so I don't worry about laying it on furniture and worse yet banging it against furniture ( I am clumsy).  It has a removable shoulder strap which can be doubled to hold the case lid in upright position. <dd>  <dd>Everyone has to work out what's best for them.  I am very happy with this arrangement. <dd>  <dd>Ron Engle <dd>  <dd>  <dd>On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:40:39 EST <a href="mailto:Wimblees@aol.com">Wimblees@aol.com</a> writes: <dl> <dd>Jeff <dd>  <dd>I use a tool roll, as sold by the piano supply stores, to hold my basic tuning and regulating tools, pliers, etc. I have another small bag for my voicing tools. These is carry in one of the briefcases sold at the home office, which has the PTG logo on it. The briefcase is leather, and can be carried by a shoulder strap. It has room for lots of extra goodies, including paper work, glue, etc. I like the shoulder strap, as it takes the weight off my arms and hands. <dd>  <dd>As was mentioned, there is no such a thing as a perfect case. What you want is something that will hold the basic things you need most of the time that will get you thought a basic tuning, voicing, and regulation.  The rest you should keep in a variety of carrying cases and tool boxes in your car. <dd>  <dd>Wim <dd>  </dl> </dl></blockquote></body> </html>